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Old 03-31-2011, 09:08 AM
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Question MC1.2KW vs MC601's ...

I heard my first pair of MC1.2KW's and was VERY impressed . Now I have a question (of course). Is the technology in the MC601's derived from and improved upon from the MC1.2KW's or can it be considered similar but lower power? What I heard from the MC1.2KW's was smooth and easy. A great listen, very satisfying. Are the sonic signatures similar? Oh boy, here we go.....
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:57 AM
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Joe.... I have heard the 601's on two occasions; once at CES, and another time at a friends home.

Although I have not heard them side by side; I believe them to sound more alike than different.

Obviously you know I'm a huge fan of the MC1.2K's (currently own... well too many)

I really don't think you would be making a mistake either way. Many here own the 1.2K's and it will undoubtedly be their last amp.

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Old 03-31-2011, 10:59 AM
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I heard my first pair of MC1.2KW's and was VERY impressed . Now I have a question (of course). Is the technology in the MC601's derived from and improved upon from the MC1.2KW's or can it be considered similar but lower power? What I heard from the MC1.2KW's was smooth and easy. A great listen, very satisfying. Are the sonic signatures similar? Oh boy, here we go.....
I am interested to this question.

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Old 03-31-2011, 12:06 PM
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All I can say is the 1.2Kw is a sweet amplifier in ever way. Looks good, sounds good and plays effortlessly.


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Old 03-31-2011, 01:47 PM
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I really thought the 501's would be my last amps because they are so damn good. I had a great opportunity to acquire the 1.2KW's and could not pass it up. The ease of presentation from the 1.2KW's never ceases to amaze me. 601's or 1.2KW's is a great choice to have and would probably sound very close on many speakers but, on the XRT1K speakers, the 1200W plus on each channel is a match made in heaven.
If the new technology in the 601's is consistent with advances of the MCD1100, then it is definitely an amp to audition carefully.
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All I can say is the 1.2Kw is a sweet amplifier in ever way. Looks good, sounds good and plays effortlessly.


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+1 It's true!
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:42 PM
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Joe, Buy the 601's and spend the extra $$$ upgrading your Micro's. 1.2's with Micros makes no sense. With all due respect....
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601's and 1.2K's sound the same to me. A big step up from the 501's. If you are looking for something different, I would go for the 2301's. Just my opinion.
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Joe, Buy the 601's and spend the extra $$$ upgrading your Micro's. 1.2's with Micros makes no sense. With all due respect....
Hi Jim - I'm more than satisfied with my Micros and the F113's. I probably should have gone with the F110's in my room (but that's another story). My Micros really satisfy. I know you are correct about the MC601's and will probably end up with them if something I'm working on does not work out in the next couple of days.


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601's and 1.2K's sound the same to me. A big step up from the 501's. If you are looking for something different, I would go for the 2301's. Just my opinion.
Hi Ron - I have both Manley's to satisfy my tube lust. I know how good the MC2301 is, but I wanted to get a solid state amp to use on those days where my stereo is constantly on. I switch back to tubes for the fun of it and serious listening, and use solid state for more casual listening.

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601's and 1.2K's sound the same to me. A big step up from the 501's. If you are looking for something different, I would go for the 2301's. Just my opinion.
Oh Sure Ron, just confuse poor Joe...
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