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Old 11-04-2023, 03:32 PM
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Hello,

I have a Bryston BDP-3 and I am contemplating upgrading to an Aurender N10. Anyone went that route?
As much I love the BDP-3, I am a bit frustrated with the almost non-existant software upgrades.
I am trying to use Tidal with my phone and it's really a PITA to be honest.
I mostly listen music with the onboard 1TB SSD to get the best quality so that's not an issue, as I use Rigelian which I find really good.
Trying to do one stone two birds here (if that's the correct expression) by improving sound quality and user experience with more updated software.
A replacement for Manic Moose is (still?) in development but we have yet to hear from it.
I like the Aurender N10 as it's said to be better with BNC output which I use with my BDP-3, and that I have an excellent BNC cable as well (which I don't want to replace).

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Old 11-06-2023, 10:10 PM
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I own an Aurrender N100, tested a N10, and also own an Aurrender W20SE. I cannot recommend them highly enough. I have auditioned additional streamers like Grimm and Linn, and Auralic in my system. I am familiar with the Bryson sound as well. I highly recommend the Aurender.
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As much I love the BDP-3, I am a bit frustrated with the almost non-existant software upgrades.
After much reading about various DAC/streamers, your thinking about their lack of software improvements is the primary reason I did not go with Bryston a couple of months ago.
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After much reading about various DAC/streamers, your thinking about their lack of software improvements is the primary reason I did not go with Bryston a couple of months ago.
Listening with my BDP-3 now. I checked and the last firmware update is from Oct. 3, 2022... Not a bad thing in some ways meaning it's trouble free. But the Manic Moose interface is way past its prime and the competition is offering better UI. I still have to rely on a third party app (Rigelian) for better and easier operations. As far as I know there is a new interface under development at Bryston but it's been more than 3 years it's being discussed.
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Old 11-09-2023, 11:27 AM
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... I have a Bryston BDP-3 and I am contemplating upgrading to an Aurender N10. Anyone went that route?
As much I love the BDP-3, I am a bit frustrated with the almost non-existant software upgrades ...
I went the other direction, from Aurender to Bryston BDP-3. While I agree that the Bryston UI is dated (I'm being kind), it functions so superbly that I just don't care. Unlike many others, my Aurender experience was not a good one and Aurender support wasn't helpful.
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I went from a modded Mac mini to an Aurender N10 a few yweeks years ago. I am very pleased with the unit. I am certain I will stay with Aurender for years to come.
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Hello,

I have a Bryston BDP-3 and I am contemplating upgrading to an Aurender N10. Anyone went that route?
As much I love the BDP-3, I am a bit frustrated with the almost non-existant software upgrades.
I am trying to use Tidal with my phone and it's really a PITA to be honest.
I mostly listen music with the onboard 1TB SSD to get the best quality so that's not an issue, as I use Rigelian which I find really good.
Trying to do one stone two birds here (if that's the correct expression) by improving sound quality and user experience with more updated software.
A replacement for Manic Moose is (still?) in development but we have yet to hear from it.
I like the Aurender N10 as it's said to be better with BNC output which I use with my BDP-3, and that I have an excellent BNC cable as well (which I don't want to replace).

Thanks!
I never owned a BDP-3, but I do have the N10 and I love it. There has been a few updates to the Conductor app, mostly based on customer feedback. It works flawlessly for me on my iPad.

I use all of the N10's outputs except the BNC. Can you elaborate on why it's said to be better?
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