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Old 09-25-2015, 09:08 PM
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Old 09-26-2015, 02:11 AM
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Dear all,

For some time I wanted to start a thread were everybody can share his/her Accuphase story.

My Accuphase journey is a long one, so please be patient. Some 6 years ago I bought my 1st Accuphase combo, i.e the DP-500 cd player and the E-550 integrated amp. At the time I though I will be happy and content with my stereo for very many years. Unfortunately (or fortunately), I could not have been more wrong. These Accuphase boxes are extremely addictive, and after 2.5 years, I have embarked on a series of 7 subsequent upgrades:


1st upgrade: DP-500 & E-550 —> DP-500 & DG-38 & E-550 (Speakers: Focal Utopia Micro be and REL Stentor sub)
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Adding the DG-38 unit made a huge difference. The DG-38 works wonderfully and improves very very much the bass response and the stereo image of the system. As I have stated many times on this forum, the DG units should be mandatory to any reference system.


2nd upgrade: DP-500 & DG-38 & E-550 —> DP-600 & DG-38 & C-2410 & A-45 (Speakers: Focal Utopia Micro be and REL Stentor sub)
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Compared to the E-550 integrated the C-2410 & A-45 combo sounded a bit more transparent, had blacker background (this was probably the most noticeable aspect), and was also able to create a stereo image that was a bit more precise. Regarding the DP-500 and DP-600 players, one very important difference between them is the availability of h-link on the DP-600 player. Connecting the DP-600 to the DG-38 via h-link made a big difference. Everything sounds clearer via the H-link. (It is worth noting here that in my experience a normal internet cable that cost €2.5 can easily outperform balanced interconnect cables costing €250 or more).


3rd upgrade: DP-600 & DG-38 & C-2410 & A-45 —> DP-600 & DG-38 & C-2410 & A-65 (Speakers: Avantgarde Uno G2)
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The difference between the A-45 and A-65 was very big. Significantly bigger than what I have perceived after the 2nd upgrade (even though the 2nd upgrade cost me significantly more than the 3rd one). The A-65 had: 1) significantly better bass, i.e. more bass that went lower and was also better defined, and 2) better stereo image and soundstage. Beside this the A-65 made everything sound calmer, more relaxed, and effortless. In my experience only the top-tier units are able to provide the impression of calm-ness and relax-ness in music. IMO the A-45 has only one advantage over the A-65, i.e. the amount of heat it put out. Unlike the A-45, the A-65 runs rather hot. (I had the A-65 and the A-45 simultaneously in my system for 4-5 months.)


4th upgrade: DP-600 & DG-38 & C-2410 & A-65 —> DP-600 & DG-38 & C-2810 & A-65 (Speakers: Avantgarde Uno G2)
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The differences between C-2410 and C-2810 are similar to those observed when comparing A-45 and A-65. That is, the more expensive unit made the music sound calmer and more relaxed. IMO this happens because the more expensive units (i.e. A-65 and C-2810) are much faster and more dynamic than the "cheaper" ones (i.e. A-54 and C-2410).


5th upgrade: DP-600 & DG-38 & C-2810 & A-45 —> DP-600 & DG-48 & C-2810 & A-65 & PS-1220 (Speakers: Avantgarde Uno G2)
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Sound-wise, I did not find the difference between DG-48 and DG-38 significant. The DG-48 sounds a bit clearer than the DG-38 - but some might perceive this clearer sound as thin. The DG-38, on the other hand, sounds a bit fuller, which again might be interpreted by some as less detailed/clear. Overall both units do their jobs very well, and I can not say I have noticed one yielding significantly better results than the other one. The most important difference between the DG-38 and DG-48 is the user friendliness. The room correction procedure is done automatically in DG-48, while with the DG-38 unit one has to do it manually following the steps given in the manual. Unfortunately the DG-38 manual is abysmal (IMO).

The addition of the PS-1220 brought unexpected (to me) improvements. First, everything sounds more clearer and minor detail in the music become immediately apparent. Second, like the A-65 and C-2810 units, the PS-1220 made everything sound more relaxed, effortless. Third, the unit brings a significantly blacker background. Additionally, the PS-1220 unit allows me to turn on my system by pushing a single button.


6th upgrade: DP-600 & DG-48 & C-2810 & A-65 —> DP-600 & DG-48 & C-3800 & A-65 (Speakers: Avantgarde Uno G2)
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Moving from C-2810 to C-3800 was another big step forward. Two things were immediately apparent with C-3800: 1) it has much more bass (which is also more detailed and deeper) than C-2810, and 2) it is more detailed than C-2810. In the beginning the C-2810 together with DG-48 sounded better than C-3800 alone. This made me question the purchase. However, after 6 months of burn in the sound of C-3800 has risen to a whole new level. Everything is clear, musical, relaxed, with no frequency intervals drawing attentions to themselves. The DG units are still needed, but the C-2810 is nowhere near this level of performance. However, I have two complains about C-3800: 1) the amount of heat it put out which is a lot, and 2) the minuscule led indicators for volume and input source which are small and no bright enough.


7th upgrade: DP-600 & DG-48 & C-3800 & A-65 —> DP-720 & DG-48 & C-3800 & A-65 (Speakers: Avantgarde Uno G2)
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The DP-720 was a nice upgrade from DP-600. Sounde-wise DP-720 surpassed the DP-600 without much effort, as it is more detailed, clean and dynamic than DP-600 while just as musical. Also, the DP-720 has a display with larger led indicators that are also more intense, it has a usb input for the DAC, and has a very good digital volume control which with the right amp may circumvent the need for a premp. (Though, the digital volume control in DP-600 is also very good.)


I will conclude by listing the units which have given me the best value for the money: DG-38, A-65, C-2810 and PS-1220.

I hope other will also take the time to share their Accuphase story/journey. Please also list the components you have found to be most significant.
This is one of the best clear and informative post I have read in all audio forums.
If I understands correct - given the right speakers - A real upgrade to the E 600 will only be the A65 and above....
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Old 09-26-2015, 04:44 AM
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Hello! Actually I very much hope that the E460 is not my last Accuphase purchase. That's why I am here, to learn more about Accuphase products.
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Old 09-26-2015, 09:13 AM
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Well, my first encounter with Accuphase goes many years back where i remember a friend bought an Accuphase amp. Dont remember how it sounded.

But to me i replaced Audia Flight pre ,and Audia Flight FL100 Amp with an Accuphase E-470
and am really pleasantly surprised how good it is and the foot tapping is just there.

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Old 09-26-2015, 08:27 PM
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This is one of the best clear and informative post I have read in all audio forums.
Thank you very much itzo! It took quite a bit of effort to organise my thoughts and write everything down.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:07 PM
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Hi all,
My first Accuphase purchase (which I just recently made) has been quite a journey by itself...
It all started after I had a chance to listen to a C-3800 + A-65 combo at a local dealer's demo a few months ago. The experience with this combo was simply breath-taking, everything was so real and alive, never heard anything like this before. Of course when I saw the price tag - $$$ I realized the only sane thing to do would be to start with something smaller and more "reasonable".
So I started by looking at the E-360 integrated, but then quickly started to lean towards the bigger brother - the E-470. But the remarkable experience with the pre+power set kept haunting my dreams, so after a while I decided to check the possibility of getting a C-2120 + A-46 and spoke to my dealer for a while about it. I almost pulled the trigger on that set when my dealer updated me about an opportunity to get a barely used A-65 instead of the A-46 at a great price.
So right now I am waiting for the shipment of my newly purchased C-2120 + A-65
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Old 11-11-2015, 03:19 AM
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Old 11-11-2015, 08:15 AM
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My first Accuphase is P11 power amplifier. It was since 1991
These day it drives my Wilson Sophia3. A few days back I got A used but still new ATI 3005
For my home theater. Thinking that a fresher 300W from ATI must drive Sophia3 better.

No. !!
Only the bass that ATI do better, better weight, grip, and power.
But on musicality it cannot come close to 24 years old P11.
ATI sound rather dry and cold from mid to treble. When compared to Accuphase.

Accuphase stands the test of time.
But understandably ATI is not designed to be audiophile 2ch amplifier from the start, it born with different goal.

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Old 11-11-2015, 11:58 PM
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my first serious system was a NAD C165BEE preamp and a NAD C275BEE poweramps driving the pair of Harbeth P3ESR. As sufferers of this audiophilia nervosa, I was considering an upgrade for my amps since those harbeths don't sound right and was choosing amps from primare, musical fidelity, hegel and McIntosh... Then when my friend bought an accuphase e360 and he told me to get an accuphase. So without the benefit of an audition I went and bought my first ever accuphase e260. The moment it was hooked to those harbeth p3s difference was night and day. I really was overhwhelmed with these champagne gold amps from japan I haven't heard. the I told myself I got a cure for audiophilia nervosa but the itch for a full range speakers was there so I sold off my p3s and settled for a SHL5 and boy the soundstage was huge. then remission from the audiophilia nervosa sickness was taking its course until somebody mentioned a pure class A... anyway I sold off again my e260 to get an e600 and it was the most wicked amp ive heard. though for me it sounded musical than the burmester ive heard. finally I hope my remission or hopefully cure for these ailment is permanent....

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Old 11-12-2015, 07:29 AM
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fully agree with your comment on the E-600, it's not the most powerfull amp, but delivers lots of current and is fast and musical. (it's my third Accuphase Class A integrated)
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