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I don’t own the MS500 because I think it is inferior to MB100. MS500 uses the same control app as the MB100. The new linux based Autonomic servers use the new Tune Bridge app. This is a good give away that MS500 is still based on WinCE. |
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The Nuvo card is definitely a DAC connected to a USB header. No doubt. The way the MCS accepts the number and kinds of output is slightly mysterious. It may count the whole card as one unique playback device as seen in Windows mixer. Inside the MCS config utility, WMP enables you to split it up into 4 pairs and adress them separately. (As a side note, it is unknown how to adress the other pairs from other SW) Would you by any chance know which VLC version is used (for streaming)? It ships with 2.1.2, but works with 2.2.8. Last edited by Bobone; 10-29-2020 at 04:29 PM. |
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Did you ever solve this issue?
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The development of the Autonomic product line and licensing is interesting...
Early, before 2010, Autonomic and Nuvo cooperated very tightly. You can see it in the SW, but also in the HW. The Nuvo NV-MP was in fact a small piece of HW that bridged between MCS installs on PCs and Nuvo multi-room equipment such as the Grand Concerto and Essentia. The MPS4 V1 was launched around 2010. It combined a pc mobo running Autonomic’s MCS, the NV-MP bridge and a USB DAC soundcard. V2 was just a hw upgrade 2011-2013. After that, or due to Autonomics launch of the the MMS hardware series, the relationship starts to falter. As you have noted, the hw in the MMS original series is rather cheap. Especially on the audio side. Somewhat inferior to Nuvo’s MPS4 that has a separate DAC. The lower quality could have been to avoid direct Nuvo competition? Nuvo thereafter chooses to focus on wireless, like Sonos. They thereby detach themselves further from Autonomic and abandon their wired customer base. Pretty astonishing as the MPS4 could easily have been modified to provide a bridge between the two. Unclear if strategy or owner changes for both companies is behind the break. An unfortunate development as support for the MPS4 ceased. Especially as the V2 Seagate drive proved prone to crash... Autonomic on the other hand extended their cooperation with Savant, Wadia, McIntosh to essentially clone the MMS/MPS4. With this success, they launched a project to port the MCS C# to Linux resulting in the MMS-e series. It appears to be largely the same core code. Unclear to me if they have now taken a leap with regards to the audio architecture? The MMS-5A, Savant, McIntosh and MPS4 can basically run the same SW (5.35). Only small changes in settings and cosmetic skins differ. As the MS500 is the latest(last) in the MCS-windows series from as late as 2018, I was hoping that it had some interesting specs, but apparently not? Has anyone determined the details of the motherboard? Furthermore, I am a bit interested in some of the functionality. Does anyone use their MB100 to control multiroom systems? If so, is it possible to address individual speakers from a smartphone? I loved this feature! The ability still exists for AirPlay, but SpotifyConnect to speakers seems to have become broken recently in some Spotify upgrade. What about for the MB100? Can you launch multiple SpotifyConnect streams (from two different smart phones/accounts) or address the speakers directly from the Spotify app? (Please excuse my limited knowledge of McIntosh’s multiroom abilities.] Last edited by Bobone; 10-30-2020 at 10:32 AM. Reason: Typos |
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Ok, I understand. Is the MS500 more multi-room adapted and ready for e.g. the M128? Sorry for not understanding the McIntosh product suite.
SpotifyConnect is not a new feature. In multi room set-ups, for every Airplay speaker the MCS also publishes a SpotifyConnect speaker. Airplay works perfectly and SpotifyConnecy still works partially, but a bug has been introduced recently: defined speakers get published to your smartphone, but only one works. I am hoping for an update to fix the problem as it’s a really cool feature. It should be present for all multiroom or multi source MMS users. If you can’t get SpotifyConnect to work on the MB100 from your Spotify app I guess that there may be two options: - edit the registry - fiddle with the Web configurator (and thereby edit the registry) If the MB100 is set-up as a MMS, I could be able to guide you through it. We could try on your MMS-5A first. Last edited by Bobone; 11-12-2020 at 05:36 PM. |
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I enjoy that this thread grew a few legs since I posted my initial upgrade essay in April 2015. I own 2 MB100 units and continue to use them actively. The only notable upgrade I installed since 2014 is switching out the 1TB SSD for a 2TB SSD.
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