PPP vs Shunyata Hydra

[MyPal]

Originally Posted by Stereohead

I believe Dan's suggestion is the safest way to go. If your dealer is sweetening up your ear about the Shunyata then I believe it's a safe assumption that he wouldn't have a problem letting you have an in-home audition. Plus that way you can post pictures for us

[MyPal]

Originally Posted by MisterBritt

Any updates, guys? I am delighted with my PPPs but have been intrigued with the Shunyata products. I suppose I too could ask for a demonstration but for me, due to my geographics, that typically means I have to buy one first.

Yes, I realize there is a return policy on the Shunyata products from most dealers. But I'm in the information gathering stage, kind of armchair quarterbacking for now. So I wonder, any updates?

Although Shunyata does have a return policy, check with your dealer first. Some importers/dealers are not so accommodating once the box has walked out the door. It could end up with some blustering & Caelin giving the directive to the dealer to accept the goods back.

[MisterBritt]

Originally Posted by MyPal

Although Shunyata does have a return policy, check with your dealer first. Some importers/dealers are not so accommodating once the box has walked out the door. It could end up with some blustering & Caelin giving the directive to the dealer to accept the goods back.

Good advice. It looks like my dealer is going to be MusicDirect or TheCableCo. There are no dealers in the state of New Mexico. Ha. I haven't checked TheCableCo but I know MusicDirect does have a return policy.

Even so, I'm not ready to buy one ... yet. I'd like to see if someone chimes in that they, as proverbial canary in a coal mine, have been down this road. And were happy with the destination as well as the journey.

Sorry, a little Śūnyatāor (Shunyata) humor there. (see link, below)

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[Audio 1]

I would like to see Shunyata offer their power conditioners with a black faceplate option.
A number of manufacturers do this and I think it would make the product range more appealing to those of us with black components.

[j3brow]

Originally Posted by Audio 1

I would like to see Shunyata offer their power conditioners with a black faceplate option.
A number of manufacturers do this and I think it would make the product range more appealing to those of us with black components.

Amen

[BlueFox]

Originally Posted by Audio 1

I would like to see Shunyata offer their power conditioners with a black faceplate option.
A number of manufacturers do this and I think it would make the product range more appealing to those of us with black components.

That was my thought also. However, I fixed the color mismatch by upgrading to Pass Labs pre-amp and amps, which are silver.

[Alexatpos]

I think that this is a must (reed) for anyone who considers to buy Hydra product. Draw your own conclusions after...

"DIY Hydra" Power Conditioner on 10 Audio

[DonBattles]

Originally Posted by Alexatpos

I think that this is a must (reed) for anyone who considers to buy Hydra product. Draw your own conclusions after...

"DIY Hydra" Power Conditioner on 10 Audio

Not trying to be rude but that's article/write up is old news, as in eight years old. Like PS Audio much has changed with Shunyata in eight years.

[GrantS]

Originally Posted by Alexatpos

I think that this is a must (reed) for anyone who considers to buy Hydra product. Draw your own conclusions after...

"DIY Hydra" Power Conditioner on 10 Audio

I was forwarded your comments, and this 2005 link for about the 100th time in the past 8 years.

Number one, this was gone over to death a year or more ago and over many pages in this forum. I'm not going to re-state that entire thread. If people want to search it here, it shouldn't be difficult.

That was a 2002-2003 model Mr 10 did an article on. He had called to request a loan of a current model for a "review". I politely declined. He stated flatly that he would get one anyway and create an article, (quote) "without your input or participation".

His proposed "review" then turned into a DIY project, not of our current model at that time, but of an older model he obtained used. The price of the model he had was $695, which was well in line with industry standard (which was then about x5 our materials cost), a table we still use today.

If you were to cost out his stated parts (which were inferior) at a normal markup and add minimum expenses for packaging (no warranty, _no labor costs_), his DIY project would run over the budget for that Hydra at $695 in 2005. The spec's on our web exactly matched the current production models. He did not have a current production model because we didn't provide it, he bought or obtained it used.

That same gentleman was back in touch with us last year wanting to buy our power cords. I again, politely, referred him to a dealer.

Listen, if that is the best dirt you can come up with on us in 14 years of producing products and with thousands of opinions and articles all over the internet and in print world-wide…do the math. I don't care what you question or denigrate with regards to product performance or comparisons, but our pricing integrity has always been fair and our margins and retail pricing is slanted toward value, not gross inflation.

The 2002-20010 US Hydra 4's (yes we quietly updated the units several times) had exceptional parts/materials, custom-made silver-plated copper buss straps, a Carling Electromagnetic breaker ($30 our cost), a custom-designed filter (not off the shelf), our own custom-designed outlets, a decent face-plate, metal chassis and US hand labor/packaging and warranty. The $695 asking back then was entirely reasonable given our own parts/material/labor costs. You are of course, free to disagree.

Regards,

Grant
Shunyata Research

[jdandy]

Originally Posted by Alexatpos

I think that this is a must (reed) for anyone who considers to buy Hydra product. Draw your own conclusions after...

"DIY Hydra" Power Conditioner on 10 Audio

Ancient article that has been beat to death and offers no insight into today's Shunyata products. We are fortunate to have Grant as a member and Sponsor here to address this type of misinformed innuendo. Grant's response is clear and concise.