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Old 09-30-2018, 09:41 PM
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So I've had about a week or so to get used to the D'agostino sound and It's simply stunning. The clarity and immediacy of what I'm listening to is almost beyond belief. Here's a couple of observations....

1. The Avalon Isis while fairly efficient, needs some power to control the woofers.....the MC 402 while nice just didn't perform well in this area and I knew it from the second I had the Isis in the system. The S250 (500W/CH in to a 4 ohm load) fixed this problem immediately. All muddiness and wooly bass was gone from the second it was hooked up. I also had a slightly annoying mid bass hump around the 70 to 90 Hz areas which was very easy to hear on certain recordings. With the S250.....gone.

2. System synergy.....always knew it was important but holy crap....the C2300 tube preamp is a very nice preamp, but it apparently didn't play very well with the S250. I heard a much bigger difference one the Momentum pre was placed in the chain. It was as if a veil had been lifted from the front of the speakers. Not only that, the S250 must have brought out what little noise was inherent in the C2300.....it had always been dead silent with the MC 402 but there was quite a bit of hiss and electronic tube noise for lack of better words. This also disappeared once the Momentum pre was in the chain.

3. Good vs. Poor recordings. Yes, we've all heard the audiophile characteristic of a component truly bringing out what's on a recording, good or bad. I've never heard such a difference in my own listening space. Some would say that the Mc combo smoothed out the differences which may very well be the case. With the D'agostino combo there is nowhere to hide. Poor recordings sound exactly as they should while audiophile recordings sound so pristine and perfect it's almost too hard to believe. Like I said before, the first few hours I was listening I couldn't even get through a complete song since I started laughing out loud it was so ridiculous. Analog sounds insanely better than digital BTW.

4. The Avalons are sensitive to placement. This is a characteristic of Avalons in general, but I believe that with the Dag equipment in the chain, it's almost hard to believe how slight a movement can change the tonal balance and placement of vocals and instruments in space. I took me forever to get them focused and balanced correctly. It was one of those situations where I would move them slightly and have to back the other way....it is simply amazing the way they play with the room boundaries/dimensions. I have a feeling if I could get rid of the French doors on the right side of the room that would solve many problems but I probably should quit while I'm ahead!

Those are some initial thoughts so far....it's really been an eye opener. I've heard components such as these at shows and retailers, but never in my own room, it's been an experience so far.

- Buck
So, I just got home from Buck's house (into which you could fit three of my homes). He and his lovely wife and daughters were kind enough to invite me in and served a wonderful dinner.

The real attraction for the evening though was those big boy Avalons (which I'd never heard or seen) and the D'agostinos. They were beyond their reputation - the precision of the presentation, the complete and utter disappearance of the speakers, wicked control and presentation (particularly in the decay to my ear), the breadth and depth of the soundstage - it was all amazing. Buck's room is as beautiful in person as it is in the photos - I love it because it doesn't look like a sound room - it looks like a lovely place to be, and it is.

We listened to a Stevie Ray Vaughn track and it was as if Stevie was on the other side of the block - not in a gimmicky way, but it a way that made you think you were in the room and there was just a wonderful deep soundstage.

My only bad news for the evening is that I'll never be able to vouch for Buck with his wife when purchasing new gear. What he has sounds so good and is so well put together, he simply doesn't need anything else.
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Old 09-30-2018, 09:51 PM
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So, I just got home from Buck's house (into which you could fit three of my homes). He and his lovely wife and daughters were kind enough to invite me in and served a wonderful dinner.

The real attraction for the evening though was those big boy Avalons (which I'd never heard or seen) and the D'agostinos. They were beyond their reputation - the precision of the presentation, the complete and utter disappearance of the speakers, wicked control and presentation (particularly in the decay to my ear), the breadth and depth of the soundstage - it was all amazing. Buck's room is as beautiful in person as it is in the photos - I love it because it doesn't look like a sound room - it looks like a lovely place to be, and it is.

We listened to a Stevie Ray Vaughn track and it was as if Stevie was on the other side of the block - not in a gimmicky way, but it a way that made you think you were in the room and there was just a wonderful deep soundstage.

My only bad news for the evening is that I'll never be able to vouch for Buck with his wife when purchasing new gear. What he has sounds so good and is so well put together, he simply doesn't need anything else.
Thanks!!! You beat me to it.....I just posted a couple of the pictures my wife took. Glad to know you got home safe since it's such a long trip for you "inside the perimeter" guys (Atlanta joke).
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Is it a good thing or bad thing that Momentum web page just became a favorite in my browser?
It’s definitely a good thing Ivan isn’t a D’agostino dealer. That would be very bad for my wallet.
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That amp is gorgeous. What is the damping factor on them? I cannot seem to find it.
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That amp is gorgeous. What is the damping factor on them? I cannot seem to find it.
Thanks Tim, honestly I have no idea what the damping factor is although I would suspect it's a relatively high number.......the control on the Avalon's woofers is night and day compared to the McIntosh MC 402 that I had with them initially. The bass control and "punch" was one of the first things I noticed when I got the S250 installed.

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