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I found my Micro Benz SLR with its microridge tip quieter then my Koetsu Jade. It also may be the higher output from the Benz which reduced the noise.
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Don't be so quick to give up on vinyl. When I first got back into vinyl, I ended up in virtually the same situation as yours. I spent thousands of dollars only to end up with one headache after the next. My low quality mps sounded far better than my vinyl records. To make a long story short, the turntable I bought was a lemon. I exchanged it and most of my problems went away. Then I discovered that the quality of new records varies significantly. It simply isn't ideal to walk into a store and buy random albums and expect them to all be of high quality. In fact, many of them are going to be garbage quality pressings despite what their hyper stickers say. I have learned that if I want to buy an album, I have to go online first and do research to see what the best pressing is for a given album. Discogs is a good place and the people on the Steve Hoffman forum are also pretty obsessed with comparing every pressing in existence. I have become super picky as to what goes into my collection. In the end, I am so glad that I didn't give up! There are some vinyl records that just sound so incredibly magical that I can never go back to digital only. |
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You are not alone who found out that vinyl was not for you. I came to the same conclusion for the reasons you have expressed. For me, vinyl takes too much care to clean, keep clean, handle everything to avoid scratches and damages. I personally find it to be a PITA. Some hardcore vinyl enthusiasts believe it's part of the experience. So are the pops and crackles. For me, one pop/crackle is already too much. This distracts me from the music you have no idea. It reminds me that I am listening to a recording. I went fully digital in early 2019 and I am not looking back. I prefer to rip my CD to my likings and store them on the internal hard drive of my Bryson BDP. I so much enjoy to be able to click on an album on my phone and that it plays instantly. To each his own, and for those who swear by vinyl, I am happy for them.
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I loved the sound of vinyl better than digital, but I have become clumsy in my old age. After destroying my second multi thousand dollar needle on my cartridge by being too clumsy I decided to get totally out after more than 60 years.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned here is the lack of vinyl for many newer recordings. They just don't exist. I am a fan of C-Jazz and there were very few recent records available to purchase that I was interested in, for example Fourplay and Rippingtons.
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My experience has been just the opposite. Not only are LPs available for most of the new releases that interest me, but the fidelity and dynamic range on LP often exceeds its CD counterpart.
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cleeds, you are lucky that most of the music you are looking for is on LP's. That was not the case for me. I do agree with you that just about any LP I played sounded better than the same CD. I just find that there is more to break on a TT for those like me who are klutzy especially when trying to be careful.
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Another good thread. So, we have zero vinyl (except for the kids, different story..).
Question: in 2020, would you start a vinyl journey? Or direct investment into a better digital system? There is an undeniable coolness about playing an LP and likely deep satisfaction when all the effort results in a first-rate playback experience, but the learning curve looks steep. Worth it?
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Disclaimer: my digital rig is old. But even at shows, like the CAF last weekend Vinyl sounds superior to the best digital in my opinion.
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I started with vinyl when there was no digital. I still own a TT and have a decent LP collection which I listen to every so often. However, if I were starting today, I would not bother with analog. IME, for the same amount spent, today’s digital will beat analog in SQ. But More importantly, for the cost of a single LP a month, one can have millions of albums available immediately. After all, it is about the music. |
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