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Old 10-14-2020, 11:58 PM
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Sorry, just a bit off topic but this scene from Amadeus was great.

Mozart vs Salieri





https://youtu.be/6IHptqZiDxc
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Old 10-15-2020, 02:03 AM
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Sorry for the confusion gents. I meant a musical Overture to a screened film.
An overture without action? I cannot recall any unless adapted from a stage musical.
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If I understand the question correctly, I am reminded of the overture to Gone with the Wind (Max Steiner), Ben Hur (Miklos Rozsa) and How the West Was Won (Alfred Newman). How the West Was Won is one of my all time favorites.
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... sorry, I just followed the link above to see it went to Ben Hur.
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Colleagues;

As I see it there are kinds of overtures in movies one of which was used in mostly the late 50's and 60's, which was played in the theater before the film began. in other words no visuals. An example of which was the Overture to Ben-Hur. The second type was the music heard during the titles.
Of the first type, I think Ben-Hur (Rozsa) Lawrence of Arabia (Jarre) are among my favorites. Of the second type Taras Bulba (Waxman) and Star Wars and Magnificent7 (E. Bernstein) are among my favorites. My very favorite is Spartacus (North) with the visuals designed by Saul Bass. Electrifying.
I don't think that our current audiences have the attention span to have a real overture before the movie begins, and that the (how can I say this) quality of music used in movies is at a low ebb. Help us John Williams You're are only hope.

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I don't think that our current audiences have the attention span to have a real overture before the movie begins,
... maybe not, but I'm not sure people listened to them anyway. The music plays before the actual movie begins and people are still rustling around and settling down. Most movies that have overtures also have entr'actes and exit music. In theaters, I'm not sure people actually sit and listen to them either. I do at home. This thread inspired me to pull out How the West Was Won and re-listen. I still love the Americana of that music.

For the most part, the movies that had what you called the "first type" were released as Road Show Attractions -- reserved seating, higher ticket prices, and longer runs at select theaters. I can't remember that last movie that was a road show attraction.

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With theaters being pretty much a distant memory now (they already were on their way out since the powerhouses of “On Demand” streaming/watching came to be), technically the “what to watch, when to watch and how much to watch” is left up to the viewer to decide now. Therefore anything is possible?

I can’t speak for the masses but I would be very surprised if today’s average viewer would like the idea of even a few minutes of an Overture without something moving on the screen. Perhaps an overture video of an orchestra then? Slim chance of acceptance but maybe

The culture is different now. Can’t expect the people to like something from 50 years ago let alone 300.

Oh how wonderful the silent movies must have been with a piano or a fortepiano accompaniment...

Here are two professions guaranteed to put one on “social benefits” today. The Silent Film score composer and the Silent Film Pianist.
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[QUOTEI can’t speak for the masses but I would be very surprised if today’s average viewer would like the idea of even a few minutes of an Overture without something moving on the screen][/QUOTE]
Broadway and opera do it all the time.
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(they already were on their way out since the powerhouses of “On Demand” streaming/watching came to be)
... that remains to be seen. Without a theatrical release, studios will be leaving a lot of money on the table.
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