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Old 06-21-2015, 03:29 AM
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Default DG-58 or PS-1220

I'm contemplating between one of these units.

My system is in the signature. My room is around 10.5' by 12'. Which one will suit me better?
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Old 06-21-2015, 03:34 AM
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DG-58 for sure
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Old 06-21-2015, 05:52 AM
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I know,maybe not all will be with my consent,but I know what I said!
In a room with 3.2m / 3.65m,with Sf Guarnieri,C-3850,and A-200,the first thing you absolut necessary need,(I say this because you already have the C-3850/A-200), is a PS 520 ,(this ,to use only for preamplifier and CD/SACD,not necessary for finals),or a PS-1220.
You don't need in your room, with your setup the DG-58.
You must take great attention regarding the positioning of loudspeakers and of all another items from that room.The small related sound preferences,you can get with another tip of PC,interconect or speakers cable.
Sorry for my bad English.

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Old 06-21-2015, 05:59 PM
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I have to mention that there will be a 65" plasma TV probably 1' behind the back of the speakers. Hence the 1220. The 520 won't have enough juice for the front end stuff and plasma.

I will be doing some minor room treatment with Vicoustic panels in the future as well.
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:47 AM
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Mr. Suzuki actually recommends the DG-58. He says it'll allow me to listen to my system, instead of my room. Hmm, something for me to really think about.
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Old 06-22-2015, 03:23 AM
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Tommy,

If I may suggest, neither will NECESSARILY bring audible improvements.
Digital room correction with bookshelf speakers ?
I do not believe in this. Room correction is more intended for large speakers.
Moreover, it could remove some life from the music. That is the experience I got from the Lyngdorf RP1. Although I have much more confidence in the Accuphase device.
An in home tryout is mandatory imho. But take care because those devices produce "impressive" effects while they can lower the long time pleasure of your system by loosing finesse and musicality.
And power conditioning effects depend really on the quality of your local AC power. I know 2 persons in Paris that bought a PS10 and both could not hear any difference. They are now for sale. My dealer told me : in some places, you clearly have a gain. While there is zero improvement in some others.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:29 AM
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Why pick one, get both

If I were you, I'd go with the 1220 first. Clean power has an impact on the whole chain. I have a P5 and I couldn't believe the impact it had on the sound. Jean-Marc bought a P10 and he has never looked back.

Active room treatment is the icing on the cake and you need passive treatment to really get the most of it. Treating the room will go beyond what you can do with the DG58 as active treatment can solve timing issue. Get the room treated and then go with the DG58.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:53 PM
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I plan to do minor room treatment with Vicoustic panels.

Currently leaning towards the 1220. I just realized I need an extra power cord and IC if I go with the DG58.
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Old 06-23-2015, 01:44 AM
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I plan to do minor room treatment with Vicoustic panels. Currently leaning towards the 1220. I just realized I need an extra power cord and IC if I go with the DG58.
Tommy,
So If I get your point, your choice is the 1220 just because you do not have to buy 1 more IC and PC ?
This shows imho how marketing can be powerful and take power over our thoughts.
"I need" quality cables absolutely and quality = expensive.
Cables produce audible effects but they are marginal. They do not compare with the effects of changing an electronic component.
A DG58 with standard cables could outperform the 1220.
Moreover, expensive cables can be added later on. You will get a great sound too with cheap interconnects.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:51 AM
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Jerome, I would like to try these components out before purchasing them. But that is just not possible. I can only rely on user feedbacks.

Room correction devices can often make a huge difference. However, not all are positive. In some instances, musicality is lost. Long term listening becomes less enjoyable. It defeats that purity and naturalness audiophile are trying to achieve by adding colour. But for some, colour is good. Pretty much all components and cables have their own colours.

Power conditioners can also help tremendously if the incoming AC is bad. However, it can also cause loss of dynamics and musicality. But generally for front end stuff, it usually provides a positive improvement.

Expensive cables don't mean best cables. I totally get this part. But it's not just marketing. It's all system dependent. With the right match, cables make a significant difference. No less than a component change. I have experienced this in my home on more than one occasion. Once on my Shindo system, another time on my demo Accuphase integrated amp.

Back on topic. I've had a high quality power distributor and conditioner in the past. Both had small but noticeable impact on sound. Perhaps it's time to try an AC regeneration device.
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