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Old 01-09-2014, 09:37 PM
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The Autonomics Mirage MSS-5A retails at $4250
Ivan........That's correct, the Autonomics Mirage MSS-5A is $4250 and worth about $1000 tops if that. The guts wouldn't even make a decent $499 tablet computer and the Western Digital Green 1TB hard drive can be purchased on Amazon for $68.00 all day long. Its proprietary software is crippled and archaic compared to a premium server and its digital output is not bit perfect. Sure, it streams Internet music and radio. Big deal. My Sonos ZP90 does that and gives me a jam up WiFi signal, Ethernet connectivity, and great wireless apps for iPad. Android, and desktop for $399.
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Ivan........That's correct, the Autonomics Mirage MSS-5A is $4250 and worth about $1000 tops if that. The guts wouldn't even make a decent $499 tablet computer and the Western Digital Green 1TB hard drive can be purchased on Amazon for $68.00 all day long. Its proprietary software is crippled and archaic compared to a premium server and its digital output is not bit perfect. Sure, it streams Internet music and radio. Big deal. My Sonos ZP90 does that and gives me a jam up WiFi signal, Ethernet connectivity, and great wireless apps for iPad. Android, and desktop for $399.
The Sonos zone player 90 is a audiophile bargain
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The Sonos zone player 90 is a audiophile bargain
David.......You're right. I have two and the Sonos ZP120 amp, now called the Sonos Connect Amp. Great products. If Sonos had a Zone player that processed 24/196 with an internal CDRW transport and included USB connectivity for a 2TB external hard drive, it would make a fabulous music server.
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You guys should really hear the modded ZP90 version.
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You guys should really hear the modded ZP90 version.
what is a modded zp90 ?
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what is a modded zp90 ?
David.......Wyred 4 Sound does this modification. The Sonos Reclocker modification is now available. This upgrade entirely replaces the mediocre Cirrius Logic CODAC and the associated high jitter clocks. The mod was designed to integrate the SONOS system into a high end audio system through an outboard Digital to Analog Coverter.

The upgrade consists of installing a new custom Wyred 4 Sound designed PCB that contains:
•High-end sample rate converter made by TI
•Low jitter clock with less than .5ps jitter
•Low noise power supply for the clock and SR
•Micro processor controller
•Input & output digital buffers

This new custom board is installed in the SONOS and directly converts the I²S into up-sampled SPDIF. This new ultra clean low jitter signal is now available through both the Coax and Optical digital outputs. The SPDIF output's sample rate can be factory configured to 44.1, 48, 88.2, and 96kHz.

The sonic benefits are quite dramatic. An entire level of low level grunge (harsh) is removed from the sound. This improves the low level detail and imaging. The bass is now much tighter and controlled inner detail and transient attack are both greatly improved. It is important to note that the modification does not allow the Sonos to play high resolution files. It does greatly improve the sonic quality of the digital outputs.

The upgraded CONNECT in our system, with streaming lossless ripped CD's over our 100Mbps network, is now a true high-end source.

Now with the CONNECT, you can enjoy the added benefits of SonosNet 2.0 which the ZP-80 did not offer. The latest wireless mesh network technology provides double the wireless range for whole-house coverage, ensuring synchronous music playback, and avoids sources of wireless interference. Which means the music gets to all the right rooms- near or far- at exactly the right time.

The modification is covered under warranty for a period of 90 days from the date of purchase. This is separate from and excludes any warranty provided for the Sonos component itself.

Wyred 4 Sound recommends the 96kHz mod. for best performance. Upon placing your order please note in the comment section which sample rate you would like. The Sonos diagnostics network matrix will likely show up in red due to a small decrease in signal strength after the modification. If the modified unit is to be used in an area of a known weak signal the unit may be more susceptible to drop-outs.

Price of modification plus shipping.
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The modded connect is the audiophile bargain of the decade. Besides my speakers and the MEN220, the best audio component I've ever bought.
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You guys should really hear the modded ZP90 version.

Heard it many times. It was found wanting but served well as an entry level lossy net streamer. Certainly not for proper redbook or hires playback.
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David.......Wyred 4 Sound does this modification. The Sonos Reclocker modification is now available. This upgrade entirely replaces the mediocre Cirrius Logic CODAC and the associated high jitter clocks. The mod was designed to integrate the SONOS system into a high end audio system through an outboard Digital to Analog Coverter.

The upgrade consists of installing a new custom Wyred 4 Sound designed PCB that contains:
•High-end sample rate converter made by TI
•Low jitter clock with less than .5ps jitter
•Low noise power supply for the clock and SR
•Micro processor controller
•Input & output digital buffers

This new custom board is installed in the SONOS and directly converts the I²S into up-sampled SPDIF. This new ultra clean low jitter signal is now available through both the Coax and Optical digital outputs. The SPDIF output's sample rate can be factory configured to 44.1, 48, 88.2, and 96kHz.

The sonic benefits are quite dramatic. An entire level of low level grunge (harsh) is removed from the sound. This improves the low level detail and imaging. The bass is now much tighter and controlled inner detail and transient attack are both greatly improved. It is important to note that the modification does not allow the Sonos to play high resolution files. It does greatly improve the sonic quality of the digital outputs.

The upgraded CONNECT in our system, with streaming lossless ripped CD's over our 100Mbps network, is now a true high-end source.

Now with the CONNECT, you can enjoy the added benefits of SonosNet 2.0 which the ZP-80 did not offer. The latest wireless mesh network technology provides double the wireless range for whole-house coverage, ensuring synchronous music playback, and avoids sources of wireless interference. Which means the music gets to all the right rooms- near or far- at exactly the right time.

The modification is covered under warranty for a period of 90 days from the date of purchase. This is separate from and excludes any warranty provided for the Sonos component itself.

Wyred 4 Sound recommends the 96kHz mod. for best performance. Upon placing your order please note in the comment section which sample rate you would like. The Sonos diagnostics network matrix will likely show up in red due to a small decrease in signal strength after the modification. If the modified unit is to be used in an area of a known weak signal the unit may be more susceptible to drop-outs.

Price of modification plus shipping.
I will look into doing this , thanks
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Heard it many times. It was found wanting but served well as an entry level lossy net streamer. Certainly not for proper redbook or hires playback.
What's the best DAC you heard it through?
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