Audio Research Ref 5 + 210

[JSCC]

Originally Posted by cmalak

And Jerry...that's all that matters. Enjoy it for a very long time

Yiup and I intend t do just that! Thanks for the encouragement! Cheers!

[howiebrou]

Originally Posted by cmalak

Exchange of entire system with Jerry (except for Avid turntable system) followed by complete disassemblage of said system...things that make you say hmmm

Looking forward to the reveal

Alas the ion plasma tweeter and 2 1/2 year old boys don't mix

I went to the dealer I sold it too. He had it set up and my god it sounded beautiful

[cmalak]

Originally Posted by howiebrou

Alas the ion plasma tweeter and 2 1/2 year old boys don't mix

I went to the dealer I sold it too. He had it set up and my god it sounded beautiful

Howie...i feel your pain but the bright side is you get to listen to all this awesome new gear and get to build a new system from the ground up. We are all looking forward to see what you put together

[howiebrou]

Originally Posted by cmalak

Howie...i feel your pain but the bright side is you get to listen to all this awesome new gear and get to build a new system from the ground up. We are all looking forward to see what you put together

You know its trickier than you would imagine and probably not for the reasons normally discussed. I am not talking about important things like system synergy etc but more mundane concepts like re-sale value. For some reason some brands simply retain their resale value better than others. Not because they are better, but because of the narrow-mindedness of the market in its unwillingness to consider different brands.

Just as an example, the Plinius SA Reference power amp. First 100 watts in pure Class A. A Beautiful behemoth which is rarely bettered by amps two or three times the price imho. Yet you would find it very difficult to sell it on over here because it does not have brand recognition. Sad but true

[jdandy]

Howie.......I can't believe you are considering resale value before you have even made a purchase. In my opinion, the thought process should be more in line with what components are going to make you the happiest over the longest period of time. Select these components without considering the resale value, as you are most likely to keep them for a long period of time. Who cares what a component will sell for on the used market if you are not intending to sell it?

[howiebrou]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Howie.......I can't believe you are considering resale value before you have even made a purchase. In my opinion, the thought process should be more in line with what components are going to make you the happiest over the longest period of time. Select these components without considering the resale value, as you are most likely to keep them for a long period of time. Who cares what a component will sell for on the used market if you are not intending to sell it?

Because I want to fiscally responsible even if at this point in time I do not intend to sell it. For many years I have bought gear and cars which come trade in time were a nightmare. Of course re-sale value is not the only consideration, but if I know it will be poor I have be damn sure that I like it in the system I am planning. It's not just my money but my family's at the end of the day.

Even when I know it is a great component sometimes something even greater comes along that will make one wish to change or add.

Your signature is testament to that!!!!!

howie

[jdandy]

Howie.......I understand your desire to be fiscally responsible, and I admire your commitment to your family. Ultimately, what the used market will bring for any pre-owned audio component is always a crap shoot. Supply and demand play a big part, and luck in finding the right buyer is always beneficial to getting what you want for used equipment. Depreciation is a fact of life with audio gear, with very few exceptions, so we always wind up taking a hit when we sell. There's no way around it.

[Still-One]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Howie.......I can't believe you are considering resale value before you have even made a purchase. In my opinion, the thought process should be more in line with what components are going to make you the happiest over the longest period of time. Select these components without considering the resale value, as you are most likely to keep them for a long period of time. Who cares what a component will sell for on the used market if you are not intending to sell it?

Dan
I made a conscious decision a few years ago that when considering higher value items I would go with products with a proven track record for maintaining their resale value. (The only exception since would be my MBL's) I must admit that as the cost of my gear has gone up I have slowed turning it over as losing a couple of grand on a CD player is a lot different than losing $20k on amps or speakers. I just know the odds are I won't own the same gear two years from now.
Jim

Jim

[howiebrou]

Originally Posted by Still-One

Dan
I made a conscious decision a few years ago that when considering higher value items I would go with products with a proven track record for maintaining their resale value. (The only exception since would be my MBL's) I must admit that as the cost of my gear has gone up I have slowed turning it over as losing a couple of grand on a CD player is a lot different than losing $20k on amps or speakers. I just know the odds are I won't own the same gear two years from now.
Jim

Jim

That's funny. MBL is one brand over here with good re-sale!

[PHC1]

That is funny because the MBL amps I heard were easily in the top 3 I have heard to date. I guess they are not popular here in US because people listen to others on the forums too much instead of listening with their own ears and since MBL doesn't come up that often in conversation, people are afraid to buy and lose money.. It's a self fulfilling prophecy with gear that doesn't get much attention, no talk, no buy, no resale value...