AudioAficionado.org  

Go Back   AudioAficionado.org > Manufacturers Forums > Japanese Exotica

Japanese Exotica Kondo, Leben, Luxman, Zanden

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 12-09-2018, 06:06 PM
GreginNH1's Avatar
GreginNH1 GreginNH1 is offline
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Concord, NH
Posts: 1,890
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsT View Post
Greg, do you remember your 590 AX ll enough to compare it to the L-509x? I’m contemplating a Luxman integrated to pair with my D-08u.
Yes.

I will PM you with my phone number.
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 01-14-2019, 04:26 PM
freesole freesole is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 20
Default

^ Curious to hear your thoughts as well. I have a Line Magnetic 805ia tube amp which I am really enjoying. I had auditioned this amp along with the Primaluna Dialogue Premium HP at home and for me, the Line Magnetic was my clear choice. Now, with me and my wife thinking about a little kiddo, I am thinking that a good solid state integrated would be nice.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 02-06-2019, 10:06 PM
freesole freesole is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 20
Default

I had the opportunity to try the 509X at home with my system and I was impressed. Loads of power and lots more to spare with my Spendor D9's. Very fluid and smooth. I felt the music reproduction was very dynamic and I could see why people love this amp. Coming from a strong tube amp like the 805ia though, I did miss some of that magic that the Line Magnetic provided. I preferred the 590AXII to the 509X without question.
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 02-06-2019, 10:17 PM
GreginNH1's Avatar
GreginNH1 GreginNH1 is offline
Senior Member

 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Concord, NH
Posts: 1,890
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by freesole View Post
I had the opportunity to try the 509X at home with my system and I was impressed. Loads of power and lots more to spare with my Spendor D9's. Very fluid and smooth. I felt the music reproduction was very dynamic and I could see why people love this amp. Coming from a strong tube amp like the 805ia though, I did miss some of that magic that the Line Magnetic provided. I preferred the 590AXII to the 509X without question.
Since you are a tube guy, I can totally understand why you prefer the 590AXII.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 02-06-2019, 11:48 PM
Tie_breaker Tie_breaker is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 111
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by freesole View Post
I had the opportunity to try the 509X at home with my system and I was impressed. Loads of power and lots more to spare with my Spendor D9's. Very fluid and smooth. I felt the music reproduction was very dynamic and I could see why people love this amp. Coming from a strong tube amp like the 805ia though, I did miss some of that magic that the Line Magnetic provided. I preferred the 590AXII to the 509X without question.
I also had the chance to compare the Line Magnetic 805ia and L-509X as I used to own both before I sold the 509X. I agree that the 508ia has certain magic that I did not hear with the L-509X. I hope to listen to the 590AXII soon.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 02-07-2019, 12:44 AM
freesole freesole is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 20
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreginNH1 View Post
Since you are a tube guy, I can totally understand why you prefer the 590AXII.
You were right Greg, the 590 has that extra touch of warmth and sweetness that tube lovers subconsciously look for. It really is a great amp.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 02-07-2019, 12:58 AM
PHC1 PHC1 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pa
Posts: 23,609
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by freesole View Post
You were right Greg, the 590 has that extra touch of warmth and sweetness that tube lovers subconsciously look for. It really is a great amp.
Well, I have the pleasure of listening to the 590 and the PrimaLuna HP in the same system, it's as simple as switching the speaker wires from one to the other. There is nothing that the PrimaLuna, even in the triode mode can really do better than the 590. Yeah, the 590 really is that good. Velvety, smooth sound of tubes with the grip of Class A solid state. On the other hand, the 590 does not really trump the PL HP either, they are more similar than different, which says a lot about a solid state integrated.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 02-07-2019, 02:34 AM
freesole freesole is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 20
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHC1 View Post
Well, I have the pleasure of listening to the 590 and the PrimaLuna HP in the same system, it's as simple as switching the speaker wires from one to the other. There is nothing that the PrimaLuna, even in the triode mode can really do better than the 590. Yeah, the 590 really is that good. Velvety, smooth sound of tubes with the grip of Class A solid state. On the other hand, the 590 does not really trump the PL HP either, they are more similar than different, which says a lot about a solid state integrated.

That is interesting, I could see that. My memory isn't great but I had the Primaluna Dialogue Premium HP for about 4 weeks. Ultimately returned it and kept the Line Magnetic. The PL is a great amp though.

Oddly enough, like you, if I get the 590AXII, I will likely keep my tube integrated so that I can switch back when I feel like it. Best of both worlds
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 02-07-2019, 02:41 AM
PHC1 PHC1 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pa
Posts: 23,609
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by freesole View Post
That is interesting, I could see that. My memory isn't great but I had the Primaluna Dialogue Premium HP for about 4 weeks. Ultimately returned it and kept the Line Magnetic. The PL is a great amp though.

Oddly enough, like you, if I get the 590AXII, I will likely keep my tube integrated so that I can switch back when I feel like it. Best of both worlds
As we all know, tube amps are more sensitive to speakers and some speakers are more revealing than others. My Harbeth 30.2s are not the most revealing speakers but are quite musical and smooth so the little differences may very well go unnoticed by my ears which more than OK by me. I've long lost the interest chasing some pinnacle of the last ounce of resolution and detail, when I listen to music I don't want to think about the gear at all and I haven't
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 03-29-2019, 05:14 PM
modlin modlin is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Canada
Posts: 74
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PHC1 View Post
As we all know, tube amps are more sensitive to speakers and some speakers are more revealing than others. My Harbeth 30.2s are not the most revealing speakers but are quite musical and smooth so the little differences may very well go unnoticed by my ears which more than OK by me. I've long lost the interest chasing some pinnacle of the last ounce of resolution and detail, when I listen to music I don't want to think about the gear at all and I haven't
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Audioaficionado.org tested by Norton Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:53 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©Copyright 2009-2023 AudioAficionado.org.Privately owned, All Rights Reserved.
Audio Aficionado Sponsors
AudioAficionado Subscriber
AudioAficionado Subscriber
Inspire By Dennis Had
Inspire By Dennis Had
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Wyred4Sound
Wyred4Sound
Dragonfire Acoustics
Dragonfire Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
Esoteric
Esoteric
AC Infinity
AC Infinity
JL Audio
JL Audio
Add Powr
Add Powr
Accuphase - Soulution
Accuphase - Soulution
Audio by E
Audio by E
Canton
Canton
Bryston
Bryston
WireWorld Cables
WireWorld Cables
Stillpoints
Stillpoints
Bricasti Design
Bricasti Design
Furutech
Furutech
Shunyata Research
Shunyata Research
Legend Audio & Video
Legend Audio & Video