ARC Galileo Range

[dizzie]

Thank you Cyril.

Originally Posted by cmalak

I believe Priaptor when from Ref 250s to Ref 75. So I believe he is talking about Ref 75. He can obviously confirm this separately.

[Bavarian05]

Originally Posted by bvdiman

Not sure of naming convention within ARC in the future. Take for example Synergistic cables in the past, they topped their Reference designation with Designer Reference then Designer Reference Squared to Abosolute Reference. When ran out of References, resorted to other names to topped it i.e Tesla, Galileo. Likewise Vitus, currently using the Masterpiece naming to cut above their previous flagship. For now yes, Ref is top at ARC, but could may well be Master Ref, Galileo Ref or simply the Galileo tomorrow. *I used/watched ARC evolve their flagships (from SP11 for preamp) D > M > Classic to current longest reigning Ref Series.. Hard to predict what lies ahead.

I really hope they don't fore sake the reference line. Just my opinion, but I am not a fan of companies cheapening the word Reference. Transparent cables have done this too and it only serves to confuse people and not put much faith in the word reference. My guess is they will (wisely) continue to use the Reference line as the top of the heap. Every one of the cartons that have left their factory (for as long as I can remember) states "There is only one Reference".

[Bavarian05]

Originally Posted by djcxxx

The Galileo name is a bow to both ARC past and the Italian connection through the Fine Sounds liaison. I don't read any more into it than that. Fine Sounds believed that ARC needed some lifestyle products to fill a niche that clearly Fine Sounds determined needs filling. Whether the Galileo series sonics are as good as the Ref series, better, or falls short remains to be assessed. That the Ref series will continue to evolve independently in its non lifestyle guise seems assured.

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[2fastdriving]

Originally Posted by Bavarian05

I really hope they don't fore sake the reference line. Just my opinion, but I am not a fan of companies cheapening the word Reference. Transparent cables have done this too and it only serves to confuse people and not put much faith in the word reference. My guess is they will (wisely) continue to use the Reference line as the top of the heap. Every one of the cartons that have left their factory (for as long as I can remember) states "There is only one Reference".

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[joeling]

Originally Posted by Bavarian05

I really hope they don't fore sake the reference line. Just my opinion, but I am not a fan of companies cheapening the word Reference. Transparent cables have done this too and it only serves to confuse people and not put much faith in the word reference. My guess is they will (wisely) continue to use the Reference line as the top of the heap. Every one of the cartons that have left their factory (for as long as I can remember) states "There is only one Reference".

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[larevoj]

Originally Posted by joeling

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[Priaptor]

On my REF75.

I had a friend over the other day who posted on WBF "Back to the Future" who couldn't believe what he was listening to. Not an inexperienced person.

I don't like comparing my system/equipment versus others as it is a personal thing that people get attached to as it strikes a personal chord with all and why I like to post about "tweaks" of equipment I have in common with others.

This is not a subtle "upgrade" and while Warren "The Ears of ARC" talks about the expense, it is all relative. To the manufacturer it may reduce their margins and/or force them to raise prices to maintain their margins BUT to us endusers does a 350 dollar purchase to augment the Ref75 or $700 to augment the Ref250 represent a huge expensive. I am aware of people being leery about changing out their "manufacturer recommended" tubes but there is no going back one you do and put just a few hours on them. Quite frankly right out of the box the sound fantastic.

I personally highly recommend them.

[cmalak]

I am waiting to hear from Kalvin if I can drop them in to my Ref 110.

[bvdiman]

Originally Posted by Priaptor

On my REF75.

I had a friend over the other day who posted on WBF "Back to the Future" who couldn't believe what he was listening to. Not an inexperienced person.

I don't like comparing my system/equipment versus others as it is a personal thing that people get attached to as it strikes a personal chord with all and why I like to post about "tweaks" of equipment I have in common with others.

This is not a subtle "upgrade" and while Warren "The Ears of ARC" talks about the expense, it is all relative. To the manufacturer it may reduce their margins and/or force them to raise prices to maintain their margins BUT to us endusers does a 350 dollar purchase to augment the Ref75 or $700 to augment the Ref250 represent a huge expensive. I am aware of people being leery about changing out their "manufacturer recommended" tubes but there is no going back one you do and put just a few hours on them. Quite frankly right out of the box the sound fantastic.

I personally highly recommend them.

*Btw.How much is it per tube? How come re-tubing Ref250 (16) only cost double that of Ref75 (4)?

[dizzie]

Priaptor,

Thank you for the response and feedback. I agree on the pricing issue. I think the cost of KT150s is nominal compared to the cost of the equipment and certainly justified if they optimize performance of that equipment regardless of what brand it is. And the cost becomes even less of an issue for those who need to replace worn out tubes anyway.

I have not tried KT150s so I am not commenting on their actual performance. Just commenting on my observations (and actual experience) of what users spend for other items (power cords, footers, etc) trying to optimize equipment. The 150s sound like a bargain.

Originally Posted by Priaptor

On my REF75.

I had a friend over the other day who posted on WBF "Back to the Future" who couldn't believe what he was listening to. Not an inexperienced person.

I don't like comparing my system/equipment versus others as it is a personal thing that people get attached to as it strikes a personal chord with all and why I like to post about "tweaks" of equipment I have in common with others.

This is not a subtle "upgrade" and while Warren "The Ears of ARC" talks about the expense, it is all relative. To the manufacturer it may reduce their margins and/or force them to raise prices to maintain their margins BUT to us endusers does a 350 dollar purchase to augment the Ref75 or $700 to augment the Ref250 represent a huge expensive. I am aware of people being leery about changing out their "manufacturer recommended" tubes but there is no going back one you do and put just a few hours on them. Quite frankly right out of the box the sound fantastic.

I personally highly recommend them.