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The discussion above includes a number of very fine amplifiers. As for the choice between an MC452 and an MC462, what might concern one's listening with electrostats more than dynamic range is the quality of the upper midrange which is another area of recent improvement for the MC462. As suggested, comparative listening would be the best guide to see if McIntosh's latest thinking gains one something appreciable over an MC452 (or an MC601, for that matter) for your situation. On the face of it, I can vouch for the 462 being a super acquisition, but any of the amps suggested will likely give pleasing results.
Happy listening. Bob |
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MC462?Or save some $ and go MC452?
Hi Muriel,
I wasn’t able to private message you. Apologies for off topic/sideways question. You are first person I’ve seen who owns both the C1100 and MP1100. I also own the C1100. Do you have an opinion on the differences between the built in phono stage in the C1100 and the dedicated MP1100. I have been wondering for a long time if it is a worthwhile upgrade. I have an MT10 turntable as well as a rega RP10 so with the MP1100 I could have both moving carts on the 2 TT hooked up at the same time to the preamp but it’s a lot to pay if sonically the C1100 phono and MP1100 are similar. Thanks for your input. Jason
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Saving money means going for the Mono blocks.
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We can calculate the power needed from that but the simple answer is go to mono locks and future proof it . |
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I wish I could give you an opinion but alas,I don't have one yet as I just ordered the C1100 before I departed on holiday.I will be picking it up upon my return.Like you,I am also VERY curious to see how the MP1100 will compare to the one built into the C1100.It better be signifigantly superior or I may have one up for sale soon! I will certainly keep you posted as to my results once I am back home. |
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As a C1100 ownwer, I say get rid of the MP1100 and use the phono stage in the c1100...then use that money for MC611 monos.
I believe the phono stage in the C1100 is top notch, and probably eerily similar to that in the MP1100–maybe even exact...the MP just adds more features, curves, inputs, an A—>D converter, and another set of meters. Just like, my opinion man... Cheers! |
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I was reading the Stereophile review of the MC462 today. Not surprisingly, the amp got a stellar review. Looking at the pictures of it, the MC462 is one seriously beautiful amplifier.
https://www.stereophile.com/content/...ower-amplifier
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I own both a MC-452 and a MC-462 (as well as several other amps.. ). How close in price are the amps? In my experience, the cost savings on the older model doesn't warrant choosing it over the latest but if it were ~$1,000 or more, then a valid argument could be made to get the MC-452.
The good news is you cant go wrong with either! The real decision point is should you skip both and just go for mono blocks. |
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