How would you compare the MT10 and the Feickert Blackbird?

[Mouse]

How would you guys compare the MT10 and the Feickert Blackbird?
It's impossible for me to hear both tables in the same room, on similar equipment.
I heard an MT5 and it sounded terrible, not sure if the cartridge wasn't set up, the table was vibrating, or if the integrated amp didn't like that record. It sounded like a blown distorted tweeter in an a capella record.

[briweed]

Those tables are in completely different leagues. The Blackbird is by far the better table despite their list prices being so close. Setup is key with any table, which is more likely what caused your experience with the MT5. That table should sound good when properly set up, like most tables.

I would not hesitate to buy a Blackbird, but in that price range you have a lot of options.

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[Audioraven]

Your dislike of the MT5 sound was probably due to the supplied Sumiko Blue Point cartridge, which can sound somewhat like a cat scratching a chalkboard.

[Mouse]

Originally Posted by Audioraven

Your dislike of the MT5 sound was probably due to the supplied Sumiko Blue Point cartridge, which can sound somewhat like a cat scratching a chalkboard.

I went in store to listen more today, the MT5 did ok this time. The sound defect was gone, or at least the records I brought were more compatible.

I'm going tomorrow or Friday to listen to the feikert again.

[Mouse]

Originally Posted by briweed

Those tables are in completely different leagues. The Blackbird is by far the better table despite their list prices being so close. Setup is key with any table, which is more likely what caused your experience with the MT5. That table should sound good when properly set up, like most tables.

I would not hesitate to buy a Blackbird, but in that price range you have a lot of options.

B

I'm trying to stick with brands my two favorite stores sell; because I want to hear them and I like my people. However, care to name a few I need to hear?

[briweed]

In that price range, the ClearAudio Ovation. If you want to step up a notch take a look at the CA Innovation. Both are rock solid tables. The Innovation gives you more flexibility with arms and the option of 2 arms.

[Formerly YB-2]

VPI Prime is another option. You really can't go wrong with most any TT/TA combo at the price-point where you are shopping. Many to choose from other than those you've mentioned. Am surprised that your shops only have McIntosh & Feikart. Most B&M shops that carry TTs carry at least 2 or 3 makers. Also, talk to Ivan. He can generally help out.

If it matters, the MT5/MT10 would match your electronics well. Plus, you do not have to go with the 'factory supplied' cartridge.

[Mouse]

Originally Posted by Formerly YB-2

Many to choose from other than those you've mentioned. Am surprised that your shops only have McIntosh & Feikart. Most B&M shops that carry TTs carry at least 2 or 3 makers.

One shop has Mc and VPI for higher end tables, and a ton of sub $1,000 tables.
Second shop has Dr Feickert, EAT, and mofi.
Both of these stores are dealers for other brands, they just don't keep them in the showroom.

[Formerly YB-2]

VPI Avenger is 'about' the same price as the MT10 and, IMO, a considerably better TT/TA for the money. Or, go with the TOTL VPI Prime Sig and use the $$ saved to get a better phono-IC and cartridge.

From what I'm seeing in your signature line you do not have a phono-preamp, unless the vinyl rig is for your office system. The built-in phono-stage in the MA8900 is likely decent, but you could be held back on getting the best from an MT5 with a nice cartridge by same. The MT5 and a $1000+/- cartridge like the TOTL Hana or AT-ART9 would be a nice match to the MA8900. If you wish to stay with Sumiko, give the Blackbird a listen. Plus, you will want a good phono-IC like a WW Platinum Eclipse 8 or similar.

[W9TR]

Originally Posted by Audioraven

Your dislike of the MT5 sound was probably due to the supplied Sumiko Blue Point cartridge, which can sound somewhat like a cat scratching a chalkboard.

Couldn’t have said it better! Horrible cartridge.