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Black Mamba CX for Power Amps?
I'm wondering if anyone has used a Black Mamba CX power cord on their power amp. I know Shunyata had a high current (HC) version for that application but am curious if the standard CX version would be sufficient.
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Yes, I did. Works great. I still use Black Mambas for my preamp, Gungnir DAC, and phono stage. Great cord.
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Lumin P1 streamer/DAC/preamp, Constellation Inspiration integrated TT: Michell Gyro SE MkII, SME V, Koetsu Urushi Vermilion, EAR324. Harbeth 30.2s, REL R-305, Shunyata Alpha V2 ICs, Alpha V2 SPs, Sigma XC, Sigma NRv2, Omega QR-s & Alpha NRv2 PCs, segmented Altaira SG stack w/ Alpha & Omega CGCs, Everest 8000 PD. Remote Server Room: Uptone EtherREGEN, AfterDark Master Clock & LPS, Alita, Battle Angel, (Akasa NUC Roon Core), iFi DC Purifiers (for SMPS used for Alita & router), Shunyata Gemini combo power distributor & Altaira-type CG GP-NR hub, Venom & Alpha CGCs, Shunyata NRv14 power cords for digital components. |
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Best Sir, Bob
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Amps:VAC 450iQ Monos in Silver Flake on HRS M3X2-1921's, HRS G7 Footers/G-Links & Sound Anchor Conecoasters. Preamp:VAC Statement (on order) (Silver Flake) Digital Source: dCS Rossini CD/SACD Transport, Vivaldi APEX DAC, Upsampler Plus & matching Clock (Silver) Analogue Preamp:VAC Renaissance SE Phono stage in Silver Flake with XLR Output Option & with Nordost Valhalla XLR's. Analogue Sources:SME 20/2 w/SME V arm & Nordost Odin 2 Tone Arm Cable, Palo Santos Presentation Cartridge & Akai GX-400D Reel-to-Reel w/relapped heads by JRF Magnetic Sciences. Akai RC-17 cabled remote (original owner since 1974). Vibration Control:TT on HRS M3X2-1921 shelf. Speakers:Wilson Audio Alexia V (on order in Ferrari Argento Silver/Parchment grills sitting on Acoustic Diode Kit). Power Cables:4 Nordost Odin Supreme Reference on amps, preamp & DAC. Ansuz Acoustics C2 on Transport & Clock. Power Distribution:Ansuz Mainz D3 Distributor & Ansuz Mainz C2 1M Power Cable Power Outlets:Furutech GTX-D NCF (R) duplex outlet, GTX Wall Plate & Duplex Cover (x2) on dedicated, same panel phase, 20A breakers. Speaker Cables:2M Nordost Odin 2 Supreme Reference on Nordost Sort Lifts. Signal Cables:Nordost Odin XLR's on dCS DAC & Amps. Digital Cables: Nordost Odin 2's, 110-ohm AES/EBU on dCS Transport to DAC. Clock Cables:5 each 75 ohm 1.25M Nordost Valhalla BNC/BNC Digital Ethernet Cable: WireWorld Platinum 1M Starlight® 8 Twinax Headphones:Vintage Koss Pro IV AA. RCM: Audio Desk PRO Tube Test Gear:Mint late '60's/calibrated Heathkit TT-1A, MaxiMatcher Power Amp & Preamp & Space Tech Labs ATT-3.02 tube test sets. |
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So, the standard Black Mamba CX will do just as well with power amps as the Black Mamba CX HC?
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No, the Black Mamba CX will not offer the same performance as the Black Mamba CX-HC for amplifiers because it has a ten-gauge conductor set versus an eight-gauge complement in the CX-HC model. The CX-HC will provide lower octave information with more weight, authority and impact than the CX. The CX is adequate for amplifiers, but the CX HC is superior, or the CX Python. You could also look at second-market Zi-Tron power cords like the Python or more recently the Alpha HC model. I would recommend the Black Mamba CX for pre-amp, DAC or phono-preamp applications. Regards, Grant |
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I fully support Grant's comments and conclusions, he certainly knows more about this than I do, and he's a terrific resource for us for all things Shunyata. I would like to qualify my comments as to why I said that a Black Mamba CX could be used with a power amp: it was given the context that jayvis was looking for a power cord that suitable for power amp with a max $300 price, and the fact that I used one for my C-J LP70S for well over a year with excellent results, until I got my Zitron Cobra.
While I fully agree with Grant that a CX HC or (CX Python) would be better for power amps, a used Black Mamba in the $300 price range would be suitable, though not ideal, for this application and would definitely provide considerable improvements over a stock OEM power cord. I am presently using a Zitron Cobra for my power amp with very good results. Personally, I think the benefits that Shunyata power cords bring are so significant that you should use the best Shunyata power cords you can possibly afford; they really represent an important part of the audio reproduction chain. So, if you can spring for a Black Mamba CX HC or CX Python, you definitely should.
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Lumin P1 streamer/DAC/preamp, Constellation Inspiration integrated TT: Michell Gyro SE MkII, SME V, Koetsu Urushi Vermilion, EAR324. Harbeth 30.2s, REL R-305, Shunyata Alpha V2 ICs, Alpha V2 SPs, Sigma XC, Sigma NRv2, Omega QR-s & Alpha NRv2 PCs, segmented Altaira SG stack w/ Alpha & Omega CGCs, Everest 8000 PD. Remote Server Room: Uptone EtherREGEN, AfterDark Master Clock & LPS, Alita, Battle Angel, (Akasa NUC Roon Core), iFi DC Purifiers (for SMPS used for Alita & router), Shunyata Gemini combo power distributor & Altaira-type CG GP-NR hub, Venom & Alpha CGCs, Shunyata NRv14 power cords for digital components. Last edited by Puma Cat; 10-13-2017 at 04:16 PM. |
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I'll let Grant chime in as the definitive word on this, but the Black Mamba CX series has better noise rejection than the Venom series, if I am remembering all my Shunyata info correctly! The line has changed pretty quickly over the last 5-6 years, so I am not fully up to speed on the "hierarchy" of which model cords provide the best performance. What i can tell you is that I am a big, big supporter of this company because it's products are based on real science and physics (and I've read and, as a scientist myself, can understand their key patents). One can make truly significant improvements to the overall quality and more importantly, listening experience and overall enjoyment from using Shunyata's products. In my experience, the more Shunyata products you use throughout your power distribution chain, the better. The benefits are additive. The higher you go up the Shunyata performance chain, the better. Unlike the diminishing returns of a lot of high-end audio products, you truly get what you pay for with increased performance concomitant with the increased engineering specification. Personally, I'd rather go "down-market" in the engineering specification of my amplfication chain than remove Shunyata products from my reproduction chain. That's how significant I think they are.
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Lumin P1 streamer/DAC/preamp, Constellation Inspiration integrated TT: Michell Gyro SE MkII, SME V, Koetsu Urushi Vermilion, EAR324. Harbeth 30.2s, REL R-305, Shunyata Alpha V2 ICs, Alpha V2 SPs, Sigma XC, Sigma NRv2, Omega QR-s & Alpha NRv2 PCs, segmented Altaira SG stack w/ Alpha & Omega CGCs, Everest 8000 PD. Remote Server Room: Uptone EtherREGEN, AfterDark Master Clock & LPS, Alita, Battle Angel, (Akasa NUC Roon Core), iFi DC Purifiers (for SMPS used for Alita & router), Shunyata Gemini combo power distributor & Altaira-type CG GP-NR hub, Venom & Alpha CGCs, Shunyata NRv14 power cords for digital components. Last edited by Puma Cat; 10-13-2017 at 04:10 PM. |
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I went from a Black Mamba CX to the CX HC could easily tell the difference on my Luxman L590Aii.
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]2-Channel System: Luxman L590Aii, D-05 CD/SACD ,VPI Classic 3 (Rolling Stone photo shoot table), VPI SDS, Shelter 501 MKII , Wilson Audio Duette,Shunyata Denali 6000T, Anaconda Zitron, Alpha Digital, and Black Mamba power cables, Tara Labs RSC Air 2 speaker wire, RSC Prime M1 IC's. |
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DonBattles, I see that you use Tara Labs interconnects and speaker cables as do I. Have you ever tried their power cords?
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