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Old 04-04-2017, 09:09 AM
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I have 2 F112 subs from Ivan in my HT and they sound better than when I had one
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:56 PM
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Rick. I'm thinking you'd be better off with 2 subs as you'll see a 6 db. increase in output. Two subs will also give more even coverage in your room. I still have my Aerial 7Ts and I went with 2 E110s. I've never regretted that decision. Very fast,musical and I get close to 19HZ in my room. I can only imagine what the 12s will sound like. You will need a high and low pass filter to blend them to perfection. Good luck!
Agreed. I matched a pair of E110's with Aerial 6T's - great. Since then I put a pair of RELs with the Aerials as they blended a bit better and moved the E110's into our small media room.

In both cases, two subs was key. Never could get one to work nearly as well, but in both rooms placing a sub front and center was not an option. In both cases the subs are closer to the listening position than the mains. The Sound Doctor white paper (JL Audio website) does good job explaining all this. try the sound doctor test CD or similar, and do a 'sub crawl'. You might be surprised how strong the nulls and peaks are in your room. I was. Enjoy!
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Old 04-07-2017, 11:16 AM
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"For now", I have decided to leave things as they are...my experience with dual subs hasn't convinced me that it's worth the additional cost. That being said, I may borrow my friend's F112 v1 just to hear how it sounds.
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Old 04-07-2017, 12:32 PM
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Agreed. I matched a pair of E110's with Aerial 6T's - great. Since then I put a pair of RELs with the Aerials as they blended a bit better and moved the E110's into our small media room.

In both cases, two subs was key. Never could get one to work nearly as well, but in both rooms placing a sub front and center was not an option. In both cases the subs are closer to the listening position than the mains. The Sound Doctor white paper (JL Audio website) does good job explaining all this. try the sound doctor test CD or similar, and do a 'sub crawl'. You might be surprised how strong the nulls and peaks are in your room. I was. Enjoy!


You have me intrigued with your using REL in place of the JLs. I have a couple of S2s sitting around. As the 6s and 7s are very similar,in what aspect did you notice RELs blending better. I xover high and low at 48-52 HZ with the E110s. Do the RELs allow you to xover? Blending is completely unnoticeable. I would be very appreciative if you'd elaborate as I believe we both have similar listening taste and I may be missing something. Not an uncommon occurrence for me.
Thank you in advance.
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Old 08-07-2017, 02:57 PM
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I took a huge step a year ago right after I moved. I had a F112v1, and upgraded to two F212v2s. The stacked sound of 2 subs is pretty phenomenal. I have them on the outsides of my towers.
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Old 08-07-2017, 03:52 PM
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Two of whatever model is better than one of the model above the former.
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Old 08-07-2017, 05:22 PM
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Two of whatever model is better than one of the model above the former.

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Two of whatever model is better than one of the model above the former.
Gary... everyone knows that!

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If those are a pair of the lower models, however good they might be, I'd still be curious to try out ONE of the next higher model.

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Those are a pair of 34C's
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