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Old 10-05-2010, 07:56 PM
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my room is very well treated with asc sound panels.
I also have a accuphase dg48 room correction.
I use a luxman 505u int amp & i use an artemis labs phono stage & turntable.
My cartridge is a shilabe miyajima.
My room is not bright, lively, but no echo.
Great, then you should be able to simply solve the problem with transparent. Just out of curiosity, take the room correction unit out of your system when you get transparent in your system. Digital sound processing can often impart an artificial edge on sound due to phase shifts and a whole bunch of stuff in the path of the signal degrading the purity of sound. It may help with gross room abnormalities in general but there is a price to pay.
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Old 10-05-2010, 07:59 PM
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I would also toe the speakers in a bit and see if you can turn your rug sideways to eliminate the tile floor bounce and resulting early floor reflections. That is tile, isn't it?
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Old 10-05-2010, 08:45 PM
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Also, lose the wheels...

Spike those babies.
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:20 PM
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Serge,

I only use the room correction DG48 when using my cheap cd player as the DG48 has a very hi end d/a converter inside the unit. You dont hear any anomalies with this unit. It really a very good room correction.
On LP playback, I don't use the room correction anymore.
I did try toe-in more but its a bit brighter sounding for me compared to a slight toe-in.
Agree it has more focus but the brighter sound gets to me.
Wheels are there to stay until i'm super comfortable in the position they are in.
thanks guys
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:24 PM
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Seems like with tile floors, using spikes and coasters or cups, they would still be able to be moved very easily...

And, would sound, much better.

Am I missing something?
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:27 PM
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Seems like with tile floors, using spikes and coasters or cups, they would still be able to be moved very easily...

And, would sound, much better.

Am I missing something?
The Wilson cabinets are so inert that there isn't nearly as much difference when you spike them as compared to wood/plywood boxed speakers. My SF Elipsa sounded really bloated on cups by the way, once spiked directly to floor, huge difference.
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:28 PM
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Seems like with tile floors, using spikes and coasters or cups, they would still be able to be moved very easily...

And, would sound, much better.

Am I missing something?
What is the best way to remove the wheels ?
Do you tilt the speaker to one side ?
I'm not super 100% if that is the room i would put the S3s in.
I have another dedicated music room that I tried the S3s in a few weeks ago & i seem to not like it because its a smaller room.
We shall see...
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:50 PM
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Ok, sorry... did not know that you might be moving them to another room.

That is a nice problem to have...

But... your posts seem to indicate that you are NOT loving the 3's...
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Old 10-05-2010, 09:57 PM
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But... your posts seem to indicate that you are NOT loving the 3's...
There is no perfect speaker, or anything for that matter.
The S3s does somethings very well (bass, transparency, imaging, soundstaging, timing, dynamics!) that my current speakers cannot do and vice versa.
My all time favourite speakers has a certain midrange tonality that i have yet to hear from another speaker.
Cello, Violins, double bass sounds sounds very natural & has no hint of metallic sound to it.
Its nice to own both as they do certain things very well.
I usually segregate the CD / LPs that sounds really good w/ the S3s & to the other system. That way, one gets best of both worlds.

S3s sound superb with: Kraftwerk, Movie Theme Soundtracks, Certain female / male vocals (Patricia Barber, Sara Brightman, Sara K, J.Lopez, Tracy Chapman, etc.) , pop music, heavy orchestral music esp with lots of dynamic passages.

My Harbeths does superb w/: older type of vocals from Sinatra, Nat King Cole, string instruments, simple classical music, acoustic instruments, certain female and male vocalist. Anything not too heavy...

This is my observation, am sure everyone else has different opinions which i respect.

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Old 10-05-2010, 10:13 PM
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Harbeths and Wilson are a different breed for sure. Harbeths cabinet is actually designed to have resonance as part of sonic signature...
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