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Old 02-04-2018, 09:24 AM
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Hi all. I just sold my my LUMIN S1 due to ongoing and most likely permanent network issues. Thank you Comcast..... There's nothing like rewiring everything and having it do no good at all.

In any event, I am in desperate need of a new network server with on board storage. I have seen posts praising both the N10 and N100H. So my question is whether or not the difference between the two units is subtle or remarkable? Basically, if I get the N100H, will I have upgradeitis or buyer's remorse in no time at all? I plan on plugging this into my K-03X.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Old 02-04-2018, 09:33 AM
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Sorry, for full disclosure, I am considering the SilenZio also.
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:41 AM
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Consider resolving your network issues first as you will need this no matter your choice if your going to run a NAS, streaming and in the rare incident need support.

Both offer value, and there are some good threads within the forum giving the detail of each.

Let us know what you end up with.

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Old 02-04-2018, 10:00 AM
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Thanks, but how does one resolve Comcast? I get signal losses to the point where Comcast calls me about it. They said the problem was inside my four walls. Well, I switched everything out; coax, ethernet, splitter, NAS drive, computer, separate modem and router,switch, etc. I have nothing left to swap out, yet I still lose signal. Comcast says they will look into it. I have no other service provider in my area. Moving is not an option...lol. So, I decided I had to get onboard storage so the music is playing off a directly connected hard drive. Am I wrong in thinking having the files directly connected will solve the drop out problem? Won't they be playing off the hard rive and not running though the network?
Apologies for being a neophyte.
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:03 AM
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Yup, the music will play just fine from an internal hard drive. Control of the device via Wi-Fi will still be an issue though.
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Thanks, but how does one resolve Comcast? I get signal losses to the point where Comcast calls me about it. They said the problem was inside my four walls. Well, I switched everything out; coax, ethernet, splitter, NAS drive, computer, separate modem and router,switch, etc. I have nothing left to swap out, yet I still lose signal. Comcast says they will look into it. I have no other service provider in my area. Moving is not an option...lol. So, I decided I had to get onboard storage so the music is playing off a directly connected hard drive. Am I wrong in thinking having the files directly connected will solve the drop out problem? Won't they be playing off the hard rive and not running though the network?
Apologies for being a neophyte.
Who set up your router/modem?
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Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:14 AM
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Thanks Masterlu! I had the network reconfigured by a local professional. We both service the same clientele, and I have always heard good things about he fixed the unfixable. But he can only fix up to the road. I suspect the problem is that I live in what cable/electric companies call a semi-rural area. I discovered this after Hurricane Sandy. I don't have the population density to be of importance to them. I have decided not to fight them....see definition of insanity.
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I compared the N10 to the N100H in a dealer's show room. I went in to purchase the N100H and left with a N10. For me it was worth the extra $'s.
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I compared the N10 to the N100H in a dealer's show room. I went in to purchase the N100H and left with a N10. For me it was worth the extra $'s.
More details please?
Was your decision based on sound quality alone?
Or using a digital output instead of USB have more to do with it, also linked to improved sound quality from other threads in this forum?

Anything else you can tell us?
I'm in the market for one, but I'll never get to demo one so I rely on my peer's ears.
My dealer has an A10 which I've heard, but he's not getting anything better like the N10. The A10 sounded flat, but I'm not blaming the A10. Their demo rooms need some work.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:47 PM
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Mouse, my decision was based entirely on the sound quality that my wife and myself heard. I knew nothing about ripping or streaming music before I went to check out the N100H, I thought that would be a good place to start my education. We never had I-tunes or any other downloaded music. We listened to the N100H and the N10 on a very revealing expensive system. We thought the N100H sounded ok but when we hooked up the N10 in the same system with the same music we were much more impressed so we purchased the N10 on the spot. We only listened to both units via USB, a WW platinum, that I brought from home. I am one of those that prefers listening to the N10 via USB going through an iFi USB with the WW platinum USB cable. I even prefer USB over COAX from the N10 to my K-01x when playing ripped CD's, so I may be in the minority here.
On a less revealing system I may not have noticed as much of a difference but I only compared the two at the dealers on the one system. I would advise you to go to where you are able to A & B both with your own ears if possible.
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