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Old 08-16-2018, 03:50 PM
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I love the MC452 with my 802d3. I do often wonder though if I should have done the 601/611
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:40 AM
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I am still gathering funds to get my pair. I have been lusting over them for quite a while...I will ultimately be driving them with a pair of MC501 amps and a Cary SLP-05 preamp (thanks to JoeyV's suggestion!)
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Old 08-18-2018, 01:54 AM
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I dream of the new 802. The day I mention them to my wife, sadly, will be the day my listening room becomes my bedroom! [emoji24]
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Old 08-18-2018, 03:35 PM
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Hi all, looking for suggestions on cables. I’ve got the following setup

Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ > McIntosh C47 > McIntosh MC452 > B&W 802D3

I’ve got AudioQuest Water interconnects and can probably get 20-25% off AQ at my dealer. In need of speaker cable (12ft or 4m required) as well as power cables and conditioner. Was thinking of going all AQ but wanted other opinions. Haven’t seen much interesting on the used market.

Questions
- is the Thunder power cord ok versus the tornado?
- was thinking of going with
- - 3xThunder PC, Niagara 1000 conditioner, and 12” of Oak speaker cable

Should I be considering other brands to pair with B&W? I’m hoping to get the above cables for under 6-7k. Any help and suggestions welcome. Thanks!
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Old 08-18-2018, 11:17 PM
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Mayoradamwest... Welcome to AA!
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Old 08-19-2018, 09:37 AM
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Hi all, looking for suggestions on cables. I’ve got the following setup

Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ > McIntosh C47 > McIntosh MC452 > B&W 802D3

I’ve got AudioQuest Water interconnects and can probably get 20-25% off AQ at my dealer. In need of speaker cable (12ft or 4m required) as well as power cables and conditioner. Was thinking of going all AQ but wanted other opinions. Haven’t seen much interesting on the used market.

Questions
- is the Thunder power cord ok versus the tornado?
- was thinking of going with
- - 3xThunder PC, Niagara 1000 conditioner, and 12” of Oak speaker cable

Should I be considering other brands to pair with B&W? I’m hoping to get the above cables for under 6-7k. Any help and suggestions welcome. Thanks!
I am using Wireworld Silver Eclipse speaker cables with my McIntosh C2600 > McIntosh MC601s > B&W 802D3 and loving the sound. I also heard there with the MC452 for an extended audition and the amazing.

Ivan is your guy if you go Wireworld
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Old 08-19-2018, 06:03 PM
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I am using Wireworld Silver Eclipse speaker cables with my McIntosh C2600 > McIntosh MC601s > B&W 802D3 and loving the sound. I also heard there with the MC452 for an extended audition and the amazing.

Ivan is your guy if you go Wireworld
Thanks. Appreciate it. The Silver Eclipse would blow up my budget just on speaker cable. Especially because their price chart goes from 3m to 5m and I need 4m. I also find it a bit weird their “silver” level is copper. Seems like the same as the AQ PSC+ which is quite a bit cheaper for the AQ Oak speaker cable in 12” length.
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Old 08-20-2018, 06:39 PM
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Has anyone tried Isoacoustics Gaia I on their 802 D3s? Do you need the D3 mounting plates? My 805D3s don't have any mounting affordances on the bottom. 802 D3s haven't arrived yet.
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Old 08-27-2018, 10:50 PM
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I'm new to AA and still cant create a new post. I've made several reply posts, and am wondering how many I have to make before I'm fully approved. Anyone know ?

Anyways, I've had a pair of 802 Nautilus since 1999 driven by a Mac MC 352. I've upgraded my pre to a Moon 740P and am now considering upgrading my 802s to 802D3s. I'm a B&W fan and have 803s in my home theater as well as a B&W center and rears. I have a few concerns regarding the 803D3s:

1) I'd like to use the MC352 until its last breath and I'm wondering if it will sufficiently drive the 802D3s ? I'll probably replace it with an MC452 or the Bryston 4B3 when the time comes. I don't have space for monos.

2) My living room is large, 24'x24' with pitched roof ceiling from 10' to 20' high. I have no wiggle room for speaker placement other than toe in. How forgiving are the D3s with respect to placement ? Room treatments are also not in the cards.

3) One of the speakers will be 20' from the amp, so there is no way I'll be able to afford audiophile cables. How big of an issue will this be ?

I'm not at all unhappy with the 802Ns, I'm just ready to upgrade. I can get an in home demo from my dealer, but don't want to waste their time for a speaker that might be inappropriate or that isn't going to deliver a substantial improvement. What do you think ?
Thanks !
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Old 08-28-2018, 12:18 AM
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I'm new to AA and still cant create a new post. I've made several reply posts, and am wondering how many I have to make before I'm fully approved. Anyone know ?

Anyways, I've had a pair of 802 Nautilus since 1999 driven by a Mac MC 352. I've upgraded my pre to a Moon 740P and am now considering upgrading my 802s to 802D3s. I'm a B&W fan and have 803s in my home theater as well as a B&W center and rears. I have a few concerns regarding the 803D3s:

1) I'd like to use the MC352 until its last breath and I'm wondering if it will sufficiently drive the 802D3s ? I'll probably replace it with an MC452 or the Bryston 4B3 when the time comes. I don't have space for monos.

2) My living room is large, 24'x24' with pitched roof ceiling from 10' to 20' high. I have no wiggle room for speaker placement other than toe in. How forgiving are the D3s with respect to placement ? Room treatments are also not in the cards.

3) One of the speakers will be 20' from the amp, so there is no way I'll be able to afford audiophile cables. How big of an issue will this be ?

I'm not at all unhappy with the 802Ns, I'm just ready to upgrade. I can get an in home demo from my dealer, but don't want to waste their time for a speaker that might be inappropriate or that isn't going to deliver a substantial improvement. What do you think ?
Thanks !
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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