Change order to McIntosh C22 instead of C47 ?

[miatadan]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Dan.......I believe that McIntosh chose not to light the Balance and Volume controls in keeping with the original C22 appearance. The Balance and Volume have the gold teal nomenclature above the respective knobs but do not appear to be illuminated.

That is what I thought from photos.

Guessing I always liked the retro look as brought first stereo in 1977, low end Lloyds H330 receiver, Radio Shack Realistic MC1400 speakers and Pioneer PL-112D turntable

We all started this hobby somewhere

Dan



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[Stahle]

Originally Posted by 1KW

The C22 is supposed to be a C2300 internally.

About a month ago I asked the local dealer about the new C22 reissue supposedly being a C2300 internally and he said he used to think the same thing but informed me that this was not true. The dealer explained that he was just at a McIntosh training where he asked that very question to the McIntosh design engineer of the C22 reissue and that person said that the C22 is its own unique design entirely and not at all based upon the C2300.

Take it for what it's worth, but the dealer is very reputable and he thought the same thing until the McIntosh engineer told him otherwise.

I'm not trying to take away from the C2300 or the C22, just letting people know that it might not be true about the design of the C22 being based upon a C2300.

[Stahle]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Dan.......I believe that McIntosh chose not to light the Balance and Volume controls in keeping with the original C22 appearance. The Balance and Volume have the gold teal nomenclature above the respective knobs but do not appear to be illuminated.

Dan is right, the volume and balance knobs are not illuminated. The rest of the writing on the glass portion only is illuminated though which is more white than the blue it tends to photograph in. I've been checking the C22 out a lot lately and may have to pull the trigger. One thing the C22 has that other McIntosh preamps don't have is the loud button which you might want to have.

[miatadan]

Originally Posted by Stahle

About a month ago I asked the local dealer about the new C22 reissue supposedly being a C2300 internally and he said he used to think the same thing but informed me that this was not true. The dealer explained that he was just at a McIntosh training where he asked that very question to the McIntosh design engineer of the C22 reissue and that person said that the C22 is its own unique design entirely and not at all based upon the C2300.

Take it for what it's worth, but the dealer is very reputable and he thought the same thing until the McIntosh engineer told him otherwise.

I'm not trying to take away from the C2300 or the C22, just letting people know that it might not be true about the design of the C22 being based upon a C2300.

Be nice to know more about the actual design of the McIntosh C22. If I am correct the C22 preamp only preamp now without dac section besides C1100 now.

[Stahle]

Originally Posted by miatadan

Be nice to know more about the actual design of the McIntosh C22. If I am correct the C22 preamp only preamp now without dac section besides C1100 now.

I think you are right about the other preamps all having DAC sections with the exception of the C22 and the C1100. My mind is pretty much made up on the C22 because it doesn't have a DAC. I also like the fact that all of the functions are right there in front and controlled by knobs and toggle switches rather than being embedded behind a multifunction trim knob, just my preference. I know some people prefer the sleek look of something like a C47 or C2600 with only the two multifunction knobs. I just wish they had illuminated the volume and balance knobs on the C22.

[miatadan]

Originally Posted by Stahle

I think you are right about the other preamps all having DAC sections with the exception of the C22 and the C1100. My mind is pretty much made up on the C22 because it doesn't have a DAC. I also like the fact that all of the functions are right there in front and controlled by knobs and toggle switches rather than being embedded behind a multifunction trim knob, just my preference. I know some people prefer the sleek look of something like a C47 or C2600 with only the two multifunction knobs. I just wish they had illuminated the volume and balance knobs on the C22.

I would love it if they illuminated the volume and balance knobs but considering the other models having multifunction knobs which I am not fan of the C22 is the best choice and I always liked the loudness button. Too bad it does not have subsonic filter for phono section.

[tcmc4]

The loudness switch can also be used in conjunction with the bass and treble controls. If you engage the loudness switch you can still adjust up or down with the tone controls if you desire. A nice feature.

[JWJW]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Dan.......I believe that McIntosh chose not to light the Balance and Volume controls in keeping with the original C22 appearance. The Balance and Volume have the gold teal nomenclature above the respective knobs but do not appear to be illuminated.

This picture was my C22. Should have never sold it. I LOVE my C2600...but the C22 is something very special.

[Stahle]

Originally Posted by JWJW

This picture was my C22. Should have never sold it. I LOVE my C2600...but the C22 is something very special.

Had I not just purchased the MC275 VI right before you were selling your C22, I would have bought your C22.

[jdandy]

Originally Posted by Stahle

About a month ago I asked the local dealer about the new C22 reissue supposedly being a C2300 internally and he said he used to think the same thing but informed me that this was not true. The dealer explained that he was just at a McIntosh training where he asked that very question to the McIntosh design engineer of the C22 reissue and that person said that the C22 is its own unique design entirely and not at all based upon the C2300.

Take it for what it's worth, but the dealer is very reputable and he thought the same thing until the McIntosh engineer told him otherwise.

I'm not trying to take away from the C2300 or the C22, just letting people know that it might not be true about the design of the C22 being based upon a C2300.

Stahel.......Your dealer is most likely correct if he is relaying the engineers comments accurately. I do note the signal to noise is improved by 5dB in the C22 over the C2300, and the maximum output voltage is higher. This probably means a more robust power supply in the C22 and will probably add some speed and headroom to the dynamics. I would certainly enjoy owning this new McIntosh C22 preamp.