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Old 03-29-2016, 07:04 PM
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I'm curious how the DAC compares to the DAC in the K03X🤔
Inferior to the K03-X DAC's.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:07 PM
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Inferior to the K03-X DAC's.
Thank you!
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:24 PM
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Inferior to the K03-X DAC's.
I'm curious what would make the k03-x DAC better.

The K-03x runs the 4495s chip
The N-05 runs the 4490 chip, which seems to have the better specs.

4495s

128x Over sampling
Sampling Rate: 30kHz  768kHz
32-bit 8x Digital Filter
Ripple: 0.005dB, Attenuation: 100dB
Short Delay Sharp Roll-off, GD=6.25/fs
Short Delay Slow Roll-off, GD=5.3/fs
Sharp Roll-off
Slow Roll-off
Super Slow Roll-off
High Tolerance to Clock Jitter
Low Distortion Differential Output
2.8MHz, 5.6MHz DSD Input Support
Digital De-emphasis for 32, 44.1, 48kHz sampling
Soft Mute
Digital Attenuator (255 levels and 0.5dB step)
Mono Mode
External Digital Filter Mode
THD+N: -101dB, -105dB (Analog Block Power Supply 7V)
DR, S/N: 120dB, 123dB (Mono mode: 126dB, Analog Block Power Supply 7V)
I/F Format: 24/32bit MSB justified, 16/20/24/32bit LSB justified, I2S, DSD
Master Clock:
30kHz ~ 32kHz: 1152fs
30kHz ~ 54kHz: 512fs or 768fs
30kHz ~ 108kHz: 256fs or 384fs
108kHz ~ 216kHz: 128fs or 192fs
384kHz: 64fs or 128fs
768kHz: 64fs
Power Supply: DVDD=AVDD=3.0 3.6V, VDD1/2=4.75  7.2V
Digital Input Level: CMOS
Package: 44-pin LQFP


4490

256x Over sampling
Sampling Rate: 30kHz  768kHz
32-bit 8x Digital Filter
Ripple: 0.005dB, Attenuation: 100dB
Short Delay Sharp Roll-off, GD=6.25/fs
Short Delay Slow Roll-off, GD=5.3/fs
Sharp Roll-off
Slow Roll-off
Super Slow Roll-off
High Tolerance to Clock Jitter
Low Distortion Differential Output
2.8MHz, 5.6MHz and 11.2MHz DSD Input Support
Filter (fc=50kHz, fc=150kHz, 2.8MHz mode)
Digital De-emphasis for 32, 44.1, 48kHz sampling
Soft Mute
Digital Attenuator (255 levels and 0.5dB step)
Mono Mode
External Digital Filter Mode
THD+N: -112dB
DR, S/N: 120dB (Mono mode: 123dB)
I/F Format: 24/32bit MSB justified, 16/20/24/32bit LSB justified, I2S, DSD
Master Clock:
30kHz ~ 32kHz: 1152fs
30kHz ~ 54kHz: 512fs or 768fs
30kHz ~ 108kHz: 256fs or 384fs
108kHz ~ 216kHz: 128fs or 192fs
384kHz: 64fs or 128fs
768kHz: 64fs
Power Supply: DVDD=AVDD=3.0  3.6V, VDD1/2=4.75  7.2V
Digital Input Level: CMOS
Package: 48-pin LQFP
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Old 04-04-2016, 04:42 PM
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I imagine there are lots of things such as the quality of the power supply, the clock, vibration control, circuit design, etc, that can make a difference. It's not just the chip, it's the implementation that matters.
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Old 04-04-2016, 07:57 PM
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True. I guess we will find out when someone gets to compare the two. It's just interesting that when you compare both product diagrams, you can see how similar the design is.

I own the K-03x and have been using the BDP-2 via BNC to RCA into the K-03x DAC. I really like the sound just a much as the CD side. I also like the convenience of having network access via ipad to my ripped cd's.

I was thinking of just going with a good DAC, and the N-05 looked really interesting, as the D-02 is out of my range.
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Old 04-04-2016, 08:24 PM
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I plan on getting an N-05
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Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

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Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 04-05-2016, 12:44 AM
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I get my N-05 on Friday! Heard it at the shop and was floored by how good it was out of the box even when the demo unit was only 2 days old. I've been on the fence on a network player for a long time but the fact that its an esoteric AND i can run this with my G01 clock sealed the deal.

Will update once its in my system
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:03 AM
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I get my N-05 on Friday! Heard it at the shop and was floored by how good it was out of the box even when the demo unit was only 2 days old. I've been on the fence on a network player for a long time but the fact that its an esoteric AND i can run this with my G01 clock sealed the deal.

Will update once its in my system
Let me guess, are you in Hong Kong?
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Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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I think it will give the K03X a close run, given that it has a superior transport File players implemented properly simply sounds much better than equivalent disk spinners
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Bingo! Got a call last week from my dealer buddy saying he managed to get 2, he's keeping one for demo so I took the other

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