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From HiFi Critic, Martin Colloms performance listing
Preamplifier : Conrad Johnson CT5 90 Conrad Johnson ART 57 Conrad Johnson ART II 68 Conrad Johnson ACT-2 (mkII) 105 (110) Conrad Johnson Premier 7 36 Conrad Johnson 17 LS mkI 46 Conrad Johnson 17 LS -II 44 Conrad Johnson PV 14L 24 Conrad Johnson PF-R 22 Conrad Johnson Evolution 20 20 Conrad Johnson Motif (line) 23 Conrad Johnson Premier 16 49 Conrad Johnson Premier 14 39 Conrad Johnson Premier 16LS 49 Conrad Johnson Premier 18 28 Conrad Johnson Sonographe fet pre 15 Conrad Johnson 18LS 30 Conrad Johnson PV10 B 28 (line) amplifier : Conrad Johnson Premier 8a 38 Conrad Johnson MV125 18.5 Conrad Johnson MF 2300 22 Conrad Johnson MF 2500 22 Conrad Johnson MV55 23 Conrad Johnson Premier 140 35 Conrad Johnson LP70s 38 Conrad Johnson MV60se [EL34] 35 Conrad Johnson MV60se [6550] 40 Conrad Johnson Premier 350SA 110 gents let's discuss about this.....
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Philippe, I hope you don't mind, but I put the list in descending order just for ease of reading and discussion. I think I must have a touch of OCD. Conrad Johnson ACT-2 mkII 110 Conrad Johnson ACT-2 105 Conrad Johnson CT5 90 Conrad Johnson ART II 68 Conrad Johnson ART 57 Conrad Johnson Premier 16 49 Conrad Johnson Premier 16LS 49 Conrad Johnson 17 LS mkI 46 Conrad Johnson 17 LS -II 44 Conrad Johnson Premier 14 39 Conrad Johnson Premier 7 36 Conrad Johnson 18LS 30 Conrad Johnson Premier 18 28 Conrad Johnson PV10 B (line) 28 Conrad Johnson PV 14L 24 Conrad Johnson Motif (line) 23 Conrad Johnson PF-R 22 Conrad Johnson Evolution 20 20 Conrad Johnson Sonographe fet pre 15 Conrad Johnson Premier 350SA 110 Conrad Johnson MV60se [6550] 40 Conrad Johnson Premier 8a 38 Conrad Johnson LP70s 38 Conrad Johnson Premier 140 35 Conrad Johnson MV60se [EL34] 35 Conrad Johnson MV55 23 Conrad Johnson MF 2300 22 Conrad Johnson MF 2500 22 Conrad Johnson MV125 18.5 Thanks, |
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Jim Bedroom: Aurender N150, TEAC UD-505 AKM version (to be replaced by inbound Bryston BDA-3), EMIA Cu Elmaformer passive line stage, conrad-johnson MF2500, Paradigm Studio 20 v5. Shunyata Delta D6, Altaira CG hub. Shunyata Alpha XC, Delta NR v2, Alpha USB, Alpha and Venom CGC/SGC. Wireworld Eclipse 8 interconnect & speaker cables. Stillpoints footers, Butcher Block Acoustics maple platforms. Stillpoints and GIK acoustic panels. Home Office:Windows 11 PC/JRiver 31, TEAC UD-501, Luminous Audio Technology Axiom II Walker Mod passive, conrad-johnson Sonographe SA-250, Paradigm SE-1. Shunyata Hydra (Original Version), Venom 10 NR. Wireworld Eclipse 7 interconnects. Blue Jeans speaker cable. Living-Dining Room: Windows 11 Laptop/JRiver 29, Oppo BD-83, TEAC UD-501 DAC, SOTA Sapphire TT, Graham Slee Era Gold V, Ortofon 2M Black, McIntosh MR-77, c-j Sonographe SC-25, c-j MF2500, Paradigm SE-3. Wireworld 8 IC, Blue Jeans SC. Shunyata Hydra 8 v.2, Shunyata Delta NR, Venom NR. GIK 244 bass & scatter-plate panels. |
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I am little confused by this listing. Did Martin Colloms listen to all these preamps and power amp recently or is the a cumulation of the CJ gear he's listened to over the past 20+ years. Some of the models on this list about 25 years old. I don't know how old this list but it's also interesting that there are no current models listed.
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IMO, It is bs and a flawed list and a totally subjective number rating.
His system and speakers 20 years ago is very different to what he listens to now, let alone the changes over the past 20 years. If he had all these cj items in his room currently and tested them on his so called performance measure that may make some sense. At least Stereophile has the common sense of removing recommended components if the reviewer has not heard them recently in his system or they have changed. cheers Last edited by turntable; 05-02-2012 at 03:56 AM. |
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Thank you for your comments and corrections guys... this ranking... that is worth what that is worth....
Note that Prem350 obtains one of the highest mark awarded by MC for an amplifier
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He has Krell on even higher scores You owning the LP275's must be in musical heaven Like everything YMMV cheers Last edited by turntable; 05-02-2012 at 07:13 AM. |
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I felt pretty chuffed seeing my CT5 right up there amongst the best. Thats good enough for me. I had always been a bit disappointed when I saw this list bak in my Pv14ls2 days but I said to myself "mine is a s2 version, its better anyway".
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Agreed that unless everything has been auditioned using the same associated equipment throughout the source-to-speaker chain, the rankings are at best what I'd call a "best guess."
One apparent oddity--and another source of my misgivings over the numeric assessments indicated--in the rankings is the bestowing of a slightly higher rating (46) to the first iteration of the Premier 17LS than to its Teflon-capped successor 17LSII (44). I have to wonder if MC listened to the latter (and direct-compared it to a plain-vanilla 17LS) after allowing the II's caps to complete their notoriously long burn-in cycle or auditioned it just after 100 or 200 hours of burn-in. Even if the rankings were reversed, a two-point spread on a scale that tops out at 150 strikes me as insignificant to the point of meaningless.
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Jim Bedroom: Aurender N150, TEAC UD-505 AKM version (to be replaced by inbound Bryston BDA-3), EMIA Cu Elmaformer passive line stage, conrad-johnson MF2500, Paradigm Studio 20 v5. Shunyata Delta D6, Altaira CG hub. Shunyata Alpha XC, Delta NR v2, Alpha USB, Alpha and Venom CGC/SGC. Wireworld Eclipse 8 interconnect & speaker cables. Stillpoints footers, Butcher Block Acoustics maple platforms. Stillpoints and GIK acoustic panels. Home Office:Windows 11 PC/JRiver 31, TEAC UD-501, Luminous Audio Technology Axiom II Walker Mod passive, conrad-johnson Sonographe SA-250, Paradigm SE-1. Shunyata Hydra (Original Version), Venom 10 NR. Wireworld Eclipse 7 interconnects. Blue Jeans speaker cable. Living-Dining Room: Windows 11 Laptop/JRiver 29, Oppo BD-83, TEAC UD-501 DAC, SOTA Sapphire TT, Graham Slee Era Gold V, Ortofon 2M Black, McIntosh MR-77, c-j Sonographe SC-25, c-j MF2500, Paradigm SE-3. Wireworld 8 IC, Blue Jeans SC. Shunyata Hydra 8 v.2, Shunyata Delta NR, Venom NR. GIK 244 bass & scatter-plate panels. |
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I just wonder when did he started this numerical rating system, in the early 90s when he wrote for Stereophile and HiFi News he didn't assign a number to a review. So did he go back read all those reviews he wrote and ranked equipment then? I find it had to believe he could remember how every piece of equipment he reviewed sounded over the years. What is the perfect score? and if that is reached is there then a new perfect score? ?
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