AudioAficionado.org  

Go Back   AudioAficionado.org > Manufacturers Forums > Shindo Laboratory

Shindo Laboratory Sound Create Producer

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-27-2015, 04:20 PM
Alberto's Avatar
Alberto Alberto is offline
Chief Toneologist
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 2,174
Default Adieu Monbrison & Cortese: The End Of An Era –*At Least For Now

It was with very mixed feelings that I decided to send my Monbrison and Cortese back to Pitch Perfect Audio so they can find a new home and still get the support of Matt and opportunity to trade-in for upgrades.

The Monbrison + Cortese have given me many years of awesomely delicious sound, but now that I am not set up with a dedicated listening room and do most of my listening while working, they were being wasted. Even though those Siemes F2A tubes are designed to last for many 1,000s of hours, I still did not like keeping the system on all day, or turning it on/off for quick listening sessions.

Matt already has a buyer for the Monbrison, but the Cortese is likely to be still available. Check with him and know that I've taken great care of it and Matt will take great care of you.

---

So what now?

I have no immediate plans to replace the Shindo gear with anything new.

Most of my listening is CD-"quality" streaming MDA1000->McIntosh C34V->McIntosh MC250->Tannoy Sandringhams ... and while it can't compare with the refinement and detail of the Shindo gear, it sounds DELICIOUS: full-bodied, smooth, non-fatiguing.

The phono preamp on the C24V is probably where I miss the Monbrison the most. To me, it was a first-class phono-stage that happened to also have a few line inputs.

Bottom-line: I'll miss the Shindo, but now I have no worries keeping my system on 10-12hrs a day, and the sound is less distracting than the Shindo which always amazed me even after all these years with delicious sonic surprises.

Alberto
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-27-2015, 07:05 PM
jdandy's Avatar
jdandy jdandy is offline
Merry Christmas to all



 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: North Central Florida
Posts: 53,224
Default

Alberto.......Just too good to keep, uha?
__________________
Dan



STUDIO - McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MR88, Aurender N10, Esoteric K-01X, Shunyata Sigma spdif digital cable, Sonos Connect, PurePower 2000, Stillpoints, Furutech Flux 50, Michell Gyro SE, Michell HR Power Supply, SME 309, Ortofon Cadenza Black, Wireworld, Sonus faber Amati Anniversario
LIVING ROOM - McIntosh C2300, MC75 (2), MR85, Magnum Dynalab 205, Simaudio MOON Neo 260D-T, Schiit Audio Yggdrasil, Aurender N100H, Shunyata Sigma USB cable, Micro Seiki DD40, Ortofon Cadenza Blue, Nakamichi BX-300, Sony 60ES DAT, PS Audio P10, Furutech Flux 50, Sonos Connect, Stillpoints, Wireworld, Kimber, PMC EB1i, JL Audio f113
VINTAGE - McIntosh MA230, Tandberg 3011A tuner, Olive 04HD, Sony DTC-59ES DAT, McIntosh 4300V, JBL 4312A
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-27-2015, 07:10 PM
Alberto's Avatar
Alberto Alberto is offline
Chief Toneologist
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 2,174
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
Alberto.......Just too good to keep, uha?
More like "Just too good to keep sitting unplugged and collecting dust" now that I don't spend a couple of hours a night doing audiophile listening in a dedicated room.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-27-2015, 07:12 PM
j3brow's Avatar
j3brow j3brow is offline
Member

 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Posts: 3,336
Default

My condolences. We all know how passionate you were about Shindo. Your audio soul mate.
__________________

Preamp: McIntosh C1100T/C1100C, McIntosh MX180
Amp: McIntosh MC611 (2), MC601 (3), MI254
Digital: McIntosh D1100, McIntosh MCT450, Meridian 808v6, Aurender N20, Aurender ACS10, Oppo 203
Analog: McIntosh MT10, Hana Umami Red
Phono preamp: Simaudio Moon 610LP, 820S
Signal cables: WW Gold Eclipse 7 speaker cables; Shunyata Sigma v2 XLR (2); Sigma v1 XLR (2), Transparent Ref XL (MM2) XLR; WW Silver Eclipse 7 (4)
Digital cables: Shunyata Omega USB, Omega Ethernet, Sigma Ethernet; WW Platinum 7 Coax, AES/EBU
Switch: Innuos PhoenixNet
Power: Audioquest Niagara 7000, Audioquest 5000, Audioquest Dragon, Hurricane PC, Shunyata Alpha HC, AQ NRG Edison outlets, (8) 20 amp dedicated lines, 125 amp subpanel
Speakers: Wilson Sasha DAW, Dynaudio Contour 30, Dynaudio Contour 25C
Subs: REL s/812 (6), REL s/510 (3)
Accessories: HRS M3X2 shelf (MT10), Stillpoints Ultra II v2 w/ bases (21), Ultra SS (12), Mini (12), LPi v1
Sound treaments: Artnovion
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-27-2015, 07:17 PM
Alberto's Avatar
Alberto Alberto is offline
Chief Toneologist
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 2,174
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by j3brow View Post
My condolences. We all know how passionate you were about Shindo. Your audio soul mate.
No condolences necessary my friend. Nor is my passion for Shindo in the past tense. This was not a forced sale, there is no duress of any kind involved. Quite the contrary actually.

I am choosing to focus and enjoy some things more than audiophile listening these days ... it's a healthy thing to occasionally swap obsessions :-).

Alberto
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-01-2015, 05:04 PM
Loop4fun Loop4fun is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 279
Default

Hi Alberto, I reluctantly sent my Cortese back to Matt last week. In return he sent me a brand spanking new pair of the Western Electric 300b monos. Needless to say I'm ecstatic. The scale of "deliciousness" has gone up several fold. I can't begin to express how satisfied I am.

For an all day listening system in another room I recently purchased a Devialet D200 to pair with Harbeth C7s I've had for several years. While completely different than the Shindo room, if you get a chance to demo, you will likely not be disappointed. Although I have not tried it, the D200 phono section is reported to be a killer.

I, for one, will miss your always upbeat Shindo posts and attitude!

Good luck,

Bill Denton



Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberto View Post
It was with very mixed feelings that I decided to send my Monbrison and Cortese back to Pitch Perfect Audio so they can find a new home and still get the support of Matt and opportunity to trade-in for upgrades.

The Monbrison + Cortese have given me many years of awesomely delicious sound, but now that I am not set up with a dedicated listening room and do most of my listening while working, they were being wasted. Even though those Siemes F2A tubes are designed to last for many 1,000s of hours, I still did not like keeping the system on all day, or turning it on/off for quick listening sessions.

Matt already has a buyer for the Monbrison, but the Cortese is likely to be still available. Check with him and know that I've taken great care of it and Matt will take great care of you.

---

So what now?

I have no immediate plans to replace the Shindo gear with anything new.

Most of my listening is CD-"quality" streaming MDA1000->McIntosh C34V->McIntosh MC250->Tannoy Sandringhams ... and while it can't compare with the refinement and detail of the Shindo gear, it sounds DELICIOUS: full-bodied, smooth, non-fatiguing.

The phono preamp on the C24V is probably where I miss the Monbrison the most. To me, it was a first-class phono-stage that happened to also have a few line inputs.

Bottom-line: I'll miss the Shindo, but now I have no worries keeping my system on 10-12hrs a day, and the sound is less distracting than the Shindo which always amazed me even after all these years with delicious sonic surprises.

Alberto
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-01-2015, 05:16 PM
Jerome W's Avatar
Jerome W Jerome W is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,240
Default

Alberto,

You are so right my friend about swapping obsessions....
We just moved in a flat in Paris center.
I guess that hifi won't be a priority for me anymore. The car is in the street, fully packed of gear I did not even take the time to bring up in the flat !
__________________
There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats
Albert Schweitzer
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-01-2015, 05:54 PM
Alberto's Avatar
Alberto Alberto is offline
Chief Toneologist
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 2,174
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loop4fun View Post
Hi Alberto, I reluctantly sent my Cortese back to Matt last week. In return he sent me a brand spanking new pair of the Western Electric 300b monos. Needless to say I'm ecstatic. The scale of "deliciousness" has gone up several fold. I can't begin to express how satisfied I am.

For an all day listening system in another room I recently purchased a Devialet D200 to pair with Harbeth C7s I've had for several years. While completely different than the Shindo room, if you get a chance to demo, you will likely not be disappointed. Although I have not tried it, the D200 phono section is reported to be a killer.

I, for one, will miss your always upbeat Shindo posts and attitude!

Good luck,

Bill Denton
Hi Bill,

Congrats on you upgrade to the 300b -- what a great power tube. I am not surprised you are ecstatic!

I am curious about the Devialet, but I strongly suspect that its sound signature will not be to my liking. I will have to audition it one of these days though.

Alberto
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-01-2015, 06:06 PM
Alberto's Avatar
Alberto Alberto is offline
Chief Toneologist
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 2,174
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerome W View Post
Alberto,

You are so right my friend about swapping obsessions....
We just moved in a flat in Paris center.
I guess that hifi won't be a priority for me anymore. The car is in the street, fully packed of gear I did not even take the time to bring up in the flat !
Hello Jerome,

At the risk of sounding a bit too lyrical, I will say that: Sometime we begin a new chapter and sometime we begin a new book.

I've gone through a LOT of chapters in the audiophile book, sometime focusing more on the audio part than the music part (I have to admit to that, for that's the only thing that can account for those Chesky, Diana Krall and "Jazz at the Pawnshop" recordings -- and a few too many listening sessions of Roger Water's "Amused to Death" just because it sounded awesome.)

I've enjoyed the audiophile book tremendously -- which I hope is obvious from reading any of my posts. But now I am enjoying myself tremendously doing something else -- with music as the accompaniment and audiophile equipment as the accompaniment to the accompaniment.

There is a also the possibility that I like challenges and, in a way, with my Shindo system I had reached the peak of what I was after. I summited my audio Everest with Shindo as my sherpa -- a goal I never thought I'd read. I've enjoyed several years at the summit and now I am coming down.

I must admit that it was with a very heavy heart that I shipped my Monbrison and Cortese back to Matt at Pitch Perfect. But I know that through him they'll find a great new home and help another climber move up the audiophile mountain.

This does not mean, in any way, that I will not continue to be a contributor to AA -- even in the Shindo forum. I will continue to read and contribute as I have in the past.

I am not sure what motivated your move my friend. That audio room of yours was truly unique and special. But whatever the cause, I send you my best wishes!

Alberto
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-01-2015, 11:52 PM
Loop4fun Loop4fun is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 279
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alberto View Post
Hi Bill,

Congrats on you upgrade to the 300b -- what a great power tube. I am not surprised you are ecstatic!

I am curious about the Devialet, but I strongly suspect that its sound signature will not be to my liking. I will have to audition it one of these days though.

Alberto
Alberto, It's hard to tell. I certainly like its signature with the Harbeth, but with another speaker... Who knows. It's all about synergy. The Devialet is a very versatile piece and perfect for my implementation. Nothing at all like the Shindo system. But still immensely enjoyable.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Audioaficionado.org tested by Norton Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:14 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©Copyright 2009-2023 AudioAficionado.org.Privately owned, All Rights Reserved.
Audio Aficionado Sponsors
AudioAficionado Subscriber
AudioAficionado Subscriber
Inspire By Dennis Had
Inspire By Dennis Had
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Wyred4Sound
Wyred4Sound
Dragonfire Acoustics
Dragonfire Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
Esoteric
Esoteric
AC Infinity
AC Infinity
JL Audio
JL Audio
Add Powr
Add Powr
Accuphase - Soulution
Accuphase - Soulution
Audio by E
Audio by E
Canton
Canton
Bryston
Bryston
WireWorld Cables
WireWorld Cables
Stillpoints
Stillpoints
Bricasti Design
Bricasti Design
Furutech
Furutech
Shunyata Research
Shunyata Research
Legend Audio & Video
Legend Audio & Video