AudioAficionado.org  

Go Back   AudioAficionado.org > Manufacturers Forums > Shindo Laboratory

Shindo Laboratory Sound Create Producer

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-24-2015, 10:21 AM
Sancho22 Sancho22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 164
Default Shindo Aurieges phono stage vs A23 Hommage?

I am curious if anyone tried both approaches and what would be the recommendation to chose between the two excellent ones? Most interested in the sound but any other considerations would be helpful(the dedicated phono stage gives you more flexibility including 78 etc).

I have an Aurieges, Montille and VPI Prime on the way with Ortofon Cadenza Black. Currently using A23 step-up.

Last edited by Sancho22; 05-24-2015 at 02:45 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-24-2015, 11:28 AM
Hotzenplotz Hotzenplotz is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 75
Default

This can work, depending on your system approach.

Best, Hotz
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-22-2015, 11:15 AM
Sancho22 Sancho22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 164
Default

How about a combination of Aurieges with phono + a Hommage T1?
Would this combo be "competitive" with a Monbrison or Masseto sound wise (budget is perhaps similar on the pre-owned market)?

Would a dedicated Aurieges phone stage (very rare) work best with the Aurieges or even with the Monbrison or Masseto?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-29-2015, 01:38 PM
Sancho22 Sancho22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 164
Default

OK let me try this way - if I have a chance to buy a used T1 and add to my Aurieges with Phono is that comparable to say an upgrade to Monbrison or Masseto?
I found some opinions about this but not that much - tanks!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-29-2015, 07:58 PM
junker junker is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Waikiki,HI | Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 1,402
Default

Unless you are using the Shindo cartridge - a modified Ortofon SPU - or a very similar low impedance, low-output cartridge then the MC input will not be ideally suited with respect to both gain and loading. To use an MC cartridge in most cases it is much better to use an appropriate SUT whether that is an A23 T1, T2, or Homage, or something else such as Lundahl or Bob's.

So, long story short YES you are better off with the appropriate MC step-up transformer that plugs into your MM input. Once this critical component is in place, then by all means feel free to move up the line as you, and your pocketbook, desire.

Last edited by junker; 11-03-2015 at 12:05 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-29-2015, 11:01 PM
Sancho22 Sancho22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 164
Default

Thanks. I should have taken my time and add some more information.
I do have an A23 (the one which matches the D103) and it works pretty well with the D103 which is on my TD124/3009 combo. I also have the VPI Prime with Ortofon Cadenza Black.
It also works nicely with the A23 SUT. I do think the T1 could add some nice sonic improvement and would have two nice set ups - but only one MM input. I will then need to switch back and forth (not that big of a deal).

I think you are right, first step should be the T1 then maybe a Masseto or VR.
Thanks for the advice.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-30-2015, 07:21 AM
restock's Avatar
restock restock is offline
Green Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 164
Default

For the Denon DL103 a T2 would be a more appropriate match.

Last edited by restock; 10-30-2015 at 06:56 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-31-2015, 12:09 PM
Sancho22 Sancho22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 164
Default

Might sound better but the A23 "base" model (one of the two) was actually specifically built for the Denon 103 - at least based on the Auditorium as quell as many other sites...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-31-2015, 06:09 PM
fjn04 fjn04 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Clifton Park, NY
Posts: 602
Default

In my system, going from the standard A23 (Denon) SUT to the T2 was a huge improvement. In my case, it was with the Tsd-15. I would be quite shocked if you didn't feel the same with your 103.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-31-2015, 07:01 PM
Sancho22 Sancho22 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 164
Default

Thanks guys. I think I will keep the basic A23 for the D103 /TD124 and get the T1 for the Cadenza/VPI combo.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Audioaficionado.org tested by Norton Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:17 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©Copyright 2009-2023 AudioAficionado.org.Privately owned, All Rights Reserved.
Audio Aficionado Sponsors
AudioAficionado Subscriber
AudioAficionado Subscriber
Inspire By Dennis Had
Inspire By Dennis Had
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Wyred4Sound
Wyred4Sound
Dragonfire Acoustics
Dragonfire Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
Esoteric
Esoteric
AC Infinity
AC Infinity
JL Audio
JL Audio
Add Powr
Add Powr
Accuphase - Soulution
Accuphase - Soulution
Audio by E
Audio by E
Canton
Canton
Bryston
Bryston
WireWorld Cables
WireWorld Cables
Stillpoints
Stillpoints
Bricasti Design
Bricasti Design
Furutech
Furutech
Shunyata Research
Shunyata Research
Legend Audio & Video
Legend Audio & Video