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Old 07-05-2019, 02:47 PM
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I do have to say the same money spent on a good quality record "cleaner" goes a long way to improving the sound. No pseudo-science need apply there.
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Old 07-05-2019, 03:07 PM
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I couldn’t tell you how any cable improves sound, or a fuse, or how Stillpoints improve sound. If you haven’t tried them, you’re only speculating.
Again, your speaking of objects far more 'involved' than a outlet 'cover plate' ! and yes I am speculating


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I would love to see that demonstrated in a DBT ! (speaking only of the cover plate)

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Old 07-05-2019, 03:40 PM
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... I would love to see that demonstrated in a DBT ! (speaking only of the cover plate)
Why not conduct such a test yourself, and then share the results with us?
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Why not conduct such a test yourself, and then share the results with us?
Ok, you send me 3 pairs of those cover plates .....
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:38 PM
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Serge... believe me, I wished that I didn’t hear any difference. All the technical explanations really don’t mean much to me. I find, these types of upgrades/tweaks either work, or don’t.
Wait, are we talking about the AC receptacle itself, or the cover plate for the receptacle? I'm confusing these with the Furutech NCF receptacles that Ivan had for sale the other day....

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Oh, and BTW, I know its just a matter of semantics but, since we're gettin' technical here:

"Damping" is to attenuate the oscillation or vibration of something. This is why the Brits (accurately) refer to "shock absorbers" on cars or bikes as "dampers", because they damp the oscillation of the spring of a car or bike's suspension system (again, to be accurate, the spring is the actual shock absorber, the damper attenuates the oscillation of the spring after hitting a bump.)

"Dampening" is to moisten something.
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Wait, are we talking about the AC receptacle itself, or the cover plate for the receptacle? I'm confusing these with the Furutech NCF receptacles that Ivan had for sale the other day....

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My initial post is about the cover plate only, isolated as a separate upgrade. I know full well the benefits of a quality outlet as I am using Shunyata SR-Z1. I wish to order two other duplexes from cruzeFirst audio and they come in either black or white. I need to decide if I will add a audio grade cover plate (if I can put it this way) and this will lead me to choose the color of the duplexes. I was thinking about the furutech as they are black but there are no white as far as I know. If I choose white, I will just add a plastic Leviton cover plate, and save 500$. The question is, should I care?..
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Old 07-05-2019, 10:09 PM
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Given the historic holiday, I though I would include a bit of history on de-magnitizing, and why it is called degaussing. But if this technique works on your cables, I suggest reading up on the story 'bout how the kings crown was determined not to be pure gold..


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"The term was first used by then-Commander Charles F. Goodeve, RCNVR, during World War II while trying to counter the German magnetic naval mines that were playing havoc with the British fleet. The mines detected the increase in the magnetic field when the steel in a ship concentrated the Earth's magnetic field over it. Admiralty scientists, including Goodeve, developed a number of systems to induce a small "N-pole up" field into the ship to offset this effect, meaning that the net field was the same as the background. Since the Germans used the gauss as the unit of the strength of the magnetic field in their mines' triggers (this was not yet a standard measure), Goodeve referred to the various processes to counter the mines as "degaussing". The term became a common word.

The original method of degaussing was to install electromagnetic coils into the ships, known simply as coiling. In addition to being able to bias the ship continually, coiling also allowed the bias field to be reversed in the southern hemisphere, where the mines were set to detect "S-pole down" fields. British ships, notably cruisers and battleships, were well protected by about 1943.

Installing such special equipment was, however, far too expensive and difficult to service all ships that would need it, so the navy developed an alternative called wiping, which Goodeve also devised, and which is now also called deperming. This procedure simply dragged a large electrical cable along the side of the ship with a pulse of about 2000 amperes flowing through it. This induced the proper field into the ship in the form of a slight bias. It was originally thought that the pounding of the sea and the ship's engines would slowly randomize this field, but in testing, this was found not to be a real problem. A more serious problem was later realized: as a ship travels through Earth's magnetic field, it will slowly pick up that field, counteracting the effects of the degaussing. From then on captains were instructed to change direction as often as possible to avoid this problem. Nevertheless, the bias did wear off eventually, and ships had to be degaussed on a schedule. Smaller ships continued to use wiping through the war.

To aid the Dunkirk evacuation, the British "wiped" 400 ships in four days.[1]"
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Given the historic holiday, I though I would include a bit of history on de-magnitizing, and why it is called degaussing. But if this technique works on your cables, I suggest reading up on the story 'bout how the kings crown was determined not to be pure gold..


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"The term was first used by then-Commander Charles F. Goodeve, RCNVR, during World War II while trying to counter the German magnetic naval mines that were playing havoc with the British fleet. The mines detected the increase in the magnetic field when the steel in a ship concentrated the Earth's magnetic field over it. Admiralty scientists, including Goodeve, developed a number of systems to induce a small "N-pole up" field into the ship to offset this effect, meaning that the net field was the same as the background. Since the Germans used the gauss as the unit of the strength of the magnetic field in their mines' triggers (this was not yet a standard measure), Goodeve referred to the various processes to counter the mines as "degaussing". The term became a common word.

The original method of degaussing was to install electromagnetic coils into the ships, known simply as coiling. In addition to being able to bias the ship continually, coiling also allowed the bias field to be reversed in the southern hemisphere, where the mines were set to detect "S-pole down" fields. British ships, notably cruisers and battleships, were well protected by about 1943.

Installing such special equipment was, however, far too expensive and difficult to service all ships that would need it, so the navy developed an alternative called wiping, which Goodeve also devised, and which is now also called deperming. This procedure simply dragged a large electrical cable along the side of the ship with a pulse of about 2000 amperes flowing through it. This induced the proper field into the ship in the form of a slight bias. It was originally thought that the pounding of the sea and the ship's engines would slowly randomize this field, but in testing, this was found not to be a real problem. A more serious problem was later realized: as a ship travels through Earth's magnetic field, it will slowly pick up that field, counteracting the effects of the degaussing. From then on captains were instructed to change direction as often as possible to avoid this problem. Nevertheless, the bias did wear off eventually, and ships had to be degaussed on a schedule. Smaller ships continued to use wiping through the war.

To aid the Dunkirk evacuation, the British "wiped" 400 ships in four days.[1]"
Very cool, thanks for sharing the WWII story!

As to how the crown was determined to be not all gold, Archimedes cracked that nut.

The more important question is "Why didn't the Emperor have any clothes"? Rumor has it, he spent all his money on audio accessories!



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Old 07-05-2019, 10:49 PM
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I do have to say the same money spent on a good quality record "cleaner" goes a long way to improving the sound. No pseudo-science need apply there.
Serge.......Not everything that is real can be fully explained even when we experience results. Let me provide an example.

A man was walking along a California beach when he came upon an old bottle half buried in the sand. He picked it up and was rubbing the sand off when smoke swirled from inside the bottle and a very old Genie appeared. The man was startled but the Genie spoke and assured him everything was fine. The Genie said, "I am here to grant you a wish, any wish. I am such an old Genie I no longer have the strength to grant three wishes, but I can grant you one. What is your wish?" The man thought for a minute and said. "I have always wanted to visit Hawaii but I am afraid to fly or travel by boat. Please build me a bridge from here to Hawaii." The Genie paused for a moment then said, "I can do this but it will take years to complete and no doubt lives will be lost during the dangerous construction across the mighty Pacific Ocean. Are you certain this is your wish?" The man considered the Genie's words and said, "You're right. That would be too much to ask." Thinking for another moment the man finally spoke, "Genie, my wish is to understand women." The Genie blinked several times, frowned slightly and said, "Do you want that bridge to be one lane or two."

There it is. Women are real. That's a certainty, but some things just cannot be explained. .
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