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Old 07-19-2017, 12:34 PM
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Default Might Get Salon2's - Question on Efficiency..

Might Get Salon2's - Question on Efficiency..
For those of you lucky to have these - will 400 w / 8 ohm - 800 w/ 4 ohm monobloc amps be "enough" to get them to loud levels? Just worried about the 86db/spl rating. Especially since I was looking at JBL 4367s with 94db / spl efficiency...

My room is 21x19x8

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Old 07-19-2017, 12:54 PM
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What brand amp are you planning to use? IIWM, I'd get something along the lines of at least 600; 800 or 1K watts or more @ 8 ohms.

I believe Stereophile had a review and used a ML 125W, a Krell 600 watt and Bryston 28B-SST monos pushing 1.3K watts. They eluded to the Krell and Bryston as their favorites. Those titanium drivers are stiff.

Since Revel doesn't recommend a minimum wattage (thanks much guys), another review put it this way:

"Low Points
• The Revel Salon2 is not a terribly efficient loudspeaker compared to other high end dynamic speakers in its class thus you will need a truly powerful amp. Revel would suggest a Mark Levinson power amp but the bigger offerings from Krell and Classe' also will do the trick. Digital amps from Bel Canto and NuForce represent lower priced, sleeper amps capable of making sweet audio love to the Salon2s."

Best of luck Sir,

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Old 07-19-2017, 01:38 PM
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What brand amp are you planning to use? IIWM, I'd get something along the lines of at least 600; 800 or 1K watts or more @ 8 ohms.

I believe Stereophile had a review and used a ML 125W, a Krell 600 watt and Bryston 28B-SST monos pushing 1.3K watts. They eluded to the Krell and Bryston as their favorites. Those titanium drivers are stiff.

Since Revel doesn't recommend a minimum wattage (thanks much guys), another review put it this way:

"Low Points
• The Revel Salon2 is not a terribly efficient loudspeaker compared to other high end dynamic speakers in its class thus you will need a truly powerful amp. Revel would suggest a Mark Levinson power amp but the bigger offerings from Krell and Classe' also will do the trick. Digital amps from Bel Canto and NuForce represent lower priced, sleeper amps capable of making sweet audio love to the Salon2s."

Best of luck Sir,

Bob
Bob,
Thanks for the feedback. I have used and love my Parasound Halo JC1's - have had them for years (2008??) and have powered every speaker I have had.
I'm just wondering if I should buy another pair and bi-amp?

Stereophile measured the JC1's power:
"...clipped at 545 into 8 ohms"
"with 1154 available into 4 ohms"
and
"no less than 4.2 KW into 1 ohm"

"Current output of 64.7A!"


https://www.stereophile.com/content/...r-measurements
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Oh for crying 'out loud'.............no pun intended !!

Your JC-1's are plenty powerful enough. While my Studio II's aren't up with the Salon's my Plinius SA-102 drives them effortlessly as does my Rogue M-180's

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Did u mean this?



Best Sir,

Bob
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He asked an opinion -- I gave him mine; you gave him yours.

Now he is in the same boat as he was when he woke up this morning.

Best Sir,

Bob
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Oh for crying 'out load'.............no pun intended !!

Your JC-1's are plenty powerful enough. While my Studio II's aren't up with the Salon's my Plinius SA-102 drives them effortlessly as does my Rogue M-180's

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He asked an opinion -- I gave him mine; you gave him yours.

Now he is in the same boat as he was when he woke up this morning.

Best Sir,

Bob

LOL - thanks guys - I just wanted to be sure that I didnt have to add "extra amp" expenses.

My wife is being more than .... amenable ... don't want to throw something else at her.

Appreciate you guys.
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He asked an opinion -- I gave him mine; you gave him yours.

Now he is in the same boat as he was when he woke up this morning.

Best Sir,

Bob
no he's not, he now understands that JC-1's are just fine !
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no he's not, he now understands that JC-1's are just fine !
And, if they aren't .. I know where to find you guys!
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He asked an opinion -- I gave him mine; you gave him yours.

Now he is in the same boat as he was when he woke up this morning.

Best Sir,

Bob
And you would prefer that he only received your opinion? That's not what this forum is about!
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