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Hi meltemi,
Thanks for the info, I was wondering whether the 30 watts minimum of the E650 would be enough to get the ProAc D2 'going' sufficiently and not drive the amp into clipping with orchestral crescendos if I'd turned up the gain (every now and then). |
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Under 8 ohm load, the E650 is Class A for the first 30 watts then A/B up to 75 watts.
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the big jump
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and between a E-650 compared to a couple of C-2120/A-36? Is it worth the jump? Having my Focal Utopia Scala v2, that are easy to drive, an integrated may be enough. That's what a very good experienced hifi-dealer told me. A significant jump would only be there with a C-28x0. Who agrees? Who not? |
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yes sure!
this is absolutely right! and surely not the reviews in the specialist journals, who are paid to write marvelous reports! however, the experience of owners is very useful; so, maybe some other ears have heard a major or a minor difference. and yes, I fully agree, our ears are all different! L'utopiste |
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Running a Pass Labs XA-30 into ~95 db Paradigm Personas 9H....So loud I have to turn it dow, and I've only seen the meters wiggle...they have NEVER moved ..You amp has lots of power in my world! Efficient speakers rock!!
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Just seen this discussion and might be able to add a few notes. First, the integrated amps are all great but they do get better as you go from 270 to 370, 470 and 600. Now, the 650 seems to be a big step up from the 600. I have heard the 650 but not on my system. So hard to say how much of a step it is from the 600 but I have been told by somebody who has done the direct comparison, it is a significant step. When Accuphase releases a new product it is always a step up. Sometimes a small, sometimes a big step. However, with all this said, the source is still the most important thing and it is more important to spend a lot of the money there. Even the E270 is already very, very good. Anybody who gets into Accuphase should also be aware that it is all about time coherency. this is where the name Accuphase comes from. So Accuphase can give you a very musical system but it really needs the entire system to be serious about time coherency. Otherwise, the Accuphase will not shine.
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mblssmp2 , welcome too the Forum
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thanks mblssmp2
this helps a lot! and yes, the source is very very important I always thought that the loudspeaker is the centre, with a good amp but yes, the source is essential, I know this now, since I have the esoteric k-01x now I still need an amp to place it between the esoteric and the focal Scala utopia... |
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