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Balanced Headphone Amplifiers
Everything you probably want to know about balanced headphones and amplifiers.
http://violectric-usa.com/download/B...0Explained.pdf |
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Some further reading on balanced. This may be a bit easier of a read. https://www.headphone.com/pages/bala...adphones-guide
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Hmmm
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Whether balanced in headphone use is actually necessary or not is still a very much debatable subject but there is one fact that remains pretty obvious, not all headphone amps are created equal and not all of them drive various headphones to perfection. I've come across designers who believe that balanced circuitry does not belong on high end audio period (not even talking about headphones here) and that single ended sounds clearly better because balanced circuitry introduced extra circuitry and op amps, etc... Yes, the gear sounded great in single ended if you were lucky enough to get away with all single ended in your rack and not have noise. At the same time, we all know that's not a fact but an opinion of that particular designer and there are plenty of high end audio products that also sound great while implementing balanced connections between components. |
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One word....Mjolnir.
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Also on my radar Stephen. One headphone amp does not exclude the other. I like the 6SN7 tube in general from previous experience.
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Balanced Headphone Amplifiers
Yep - the Benchmark white paper misses a lot of critical points. I don't agree with most of it. But I also think he makes some good points.
The best sound I've ever heard from headphones was a balanced DAC into a fully balanced headphone amp. So let me unpack this. Headphones are balanced by nature - TRUE. They don't know if they are being driven by a single ended or balanced amp. Having a common return will cause some crosstalk. TRUE. So run a 4 wire system from the amp to the phones and then it's macht nicht. What Siau misses is that having a truly balanced amplifier driving the 'phones will cancel out the distortion in the two identical amps that are driving the 'phones differentially. Done correctly, balanced drive dramatically reduces distortion. Siau's claim that the noise goes up with balanced is specious and without merit. The signal voltage doubles, but the uncorrelated noise does not, so the S/N actually improves by 3 dB. Balanced reduces noise induced in the cables - FALSE. Since the headphones themselves are balanced, there is no difference between balanced and unbalanced cables. Any induced noise will be cancelled at the drivers. Am I stirring the pot? You decide. But I don't have any economic interest in the discussion, whereas the authors of all articles posted so far definitely do.
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One is a dedicated headphone amp, the other is a DAC with a headphone out? Benchmark chose to package their product as a DAC to include a SE headphone out. Violectric decided to do a balls to the wall headphone amp with both SE and Balanced and a DAC module if needed or wanted. Both products over $2k. So probably will be used with rather serious headphones? Right... Let's take an Audeze just as an example. Audeze LCD-4 requires 1-4W and is 200 ohm impedance. Benchmark puts out 1.2w into 30 ohms and much less into 200. Violectric puts out 2.8w into 32 ohms, 4.2W into 50 ohms and whopping 5.6W into 100 ohms. Violectric V281 also specs out at Crosstalk: -105 dB (1 kHz) / -103 dB (15 kHz) Output impedance: < 0.1 Ohm unbal. / < 0.2 Ohm bal Dynamic range: > 129 dB (A-wtd) Noise: < -95 dBu (A-wtd) I'd say with specs like that Violectric is a serious BALANCED headphone amp. What was Benchmark saying again? Last edited by PHC1; 11-07-2017 at 12:14 AM. |
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So yep, I have a Benchmark HGC3. What their specs say is that I will have to buy a dedicated headphone amp because they don't have the juice to drive the 200 ohm LCD-4's that I just bought!
All the balanced/unbalanced stuff doesn't matter if you don't have the juice!
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