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Old 04-21-2014, 01:39 PM
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Default From Clearaudio champion level II to.....?

Hello my friends,

I've got a strange idea in my head since 3 or 4 months: I don't know why, but I've got the LuFlu, I want to replace my beloved Clearaudio turntable.

Like a traitor, I've tried to find a reason, and when I measured speed values with the Iphone App Platterspeed , I found that the culprit was there; but yesterday I had on loan another Clearaudio motor, and I got the same values...
I've tried to get answers on the Clearaudio Thread, but no one is able to say me if these values are bad and if it's even audible.

To make it short, the idea is in my head now, like a worm in the apple...and I'm in the process to make me a big gift.

I have to say I have two fabulous audio buddies, Jérôme and Georges;I had the chance to listen to the La Platine JC Verdier at Jérôme's place, and it was incredible, I felt in love with this TT; I too read many positive things here and there on the Avid Acutus (very expensive ), and had the chance to listen to the George's one (Volvere) and it was fantastic.

On another side, I was interested in the TRANSROTOR Zet 3, but I listened 2 times to, and it was awful (probably the gear around and the cart ...).A beautiful piece of mechanic though. I would like to get a real demo in my home.

I wanted to see VPI too, Classic 3 or other.



To sum it up, what would you do my friends? I initially had 8k€ to spend on this ? Perhaps the reason....perhaps the passion...

I'm waiting for your opinions.
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Old 04-21-2014, 02:15 PM
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I have both the Avid Acutus SP and the VPI HRX, both premium tables.
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

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Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 04-21-2014, 03:02 PM
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Thank you Ivan, can you elaborate or say whet's your first choice?
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Old 04-21-2014, 03:11 PM
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They both sound fantastic, the VPI is clearly the better dollar value. I really enjoy them equally.
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MX136, MC1.2KW(10) MC2KW(2), MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, HT-2 SUBS(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" MOTORIZED SCREEN, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 04-21-2014, 05:37 PM
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Jean-Marc, image-802175460.jpgimage-4126703914.jpgimage-3998477064.jpgimage-2789307520.jpg You know what I think...
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Old 04-21-2014, 06:21 PM
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Jean-Marc - I'm not sure about their availability in France, but as you can see from my avatar I'm partial towards the Nottingham Analogue turntables. I have their Dais model setup with Origin Live's Enterprise tonearm and an Ortofon Cadenza Bronze and the sound quality is absolutely superb. An extremely musical and involving presentation with a very black background. If you have the opportunity to check out the Nottingham tables I think it would be worth your time.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:48 AM
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John,

Yes I know and thank you again for your very sympathetic PMs.

I do have, as you know, the Acutus SP, but I am out of my budget, even with a very good deal I got. That said, if I can sell or trade in my Clearaudio, this could be my final decision.

Please stay aware for me of good plans in London and let me know, my friend.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:53 AM
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Thank you Bill,

I do know Nottingham Analogue based on their excellent reputation, but I don't know if they are sold here in France, same problem than Avid, on the importateur's website there is no seller ( but my dealer told me he could get one, even if he has no demo).

I'll do some research today on this brand, thank you again.

BTW, are they sold in US?
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:04 AM
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Jean-Marc.......I have admired this turntable for years. It accommodates many different tonearms, perhaps I would install a Graham Phantom.







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Thank you Bill,

I do know Nottingham Analogue based on their excellent reputation, but I don't know if they are sold here in France, same problem than Avid, on the importateur's website there is no seller ( but my dealer told me he could get one, even if he has no demo).

I'll do some research today on this brand, thank you again.

BTW, are they sold in US?
Nottingham used to be more widely available in the US through an established distribution company (Audiophile Systems Ltd.) that has since gone under, but they are still available and supported by a dealer/distributor in CA.
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