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Old 12-13-2019, 01:56 PM
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Thanks, James.

It would also be cheaper to just add the BDA, I suppose, though if I got the Pi I could sell the BDP. Food for thought. thanks again.

Dave, are you alright? I don't think you are being rational making any statement about buying the Pi and selling the BDP. Just purchase the BDA3.
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Old 12-13-2019, 02:44 PM
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Dave, are you alright? I don't think you are being rational making any statement about buying the Pi and selling the BDP. Just purchase the BDA3.
Dude, chill.

It was just a question. Due to James' reply the answer is" no". If the sound quality would be the same or better, the answer would be "maybe."
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Old 12-20-2019, 02:23 PM
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I just purchased a Bryston BDA-3.14 which has native Qobuz software.

Signed up for Qobuz "Studio" (the highest level) for $149 a year. Well I must say that the SQ of the hi-rez is simply amazing. Familiar albums are new again. Even the Redbook CD ones sound great. The BDA is hardwired ethernet and I've had no problems with dropouts.

Bought a small HP laptop 11" just for this purpose. I have no clue how other systems work, but the BDA is a node on my home network. The laptop is used to login to Bryston (the company) which recognizes the BDA is mine. So, in simple terms, there is no computer in the chain, the only function the laptop serves is to act as a sophisticated remote control for the BDA-3.14 software (ie. stop play skip, create playlists, store files locally if desired). The BDA has 10 inputs, I'm only using one.

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Old 12-20-2019, 03:27 PM
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MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston 3.14 DAC/STREAMER/PREAMP


DECEMBER 20, 2019

Bryston BDA-3.14 launched at AV Designs

James Tan (left) and Tony Low officiating the launch of the Bryston BDA-3.14.

The Bryston BDA-3.14 was launched at AV Designs in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.

The launch event itself was a simple affair but what the attendees wanted was to hear what the DAC-cum-streamer could do.

That was when Malaysian LS3/5A sifu Jo Ki stepped in and played several tracks first using the Bryston BDP-3 and the BDA-3 combination and then switching to the BDA-3.14 in a system comprising TAD pre and power amps and PMC speakers.

Jo Ki said there was little difference between the two sources which showed that the BDA-3.14 is great value for money.

The BDA-3.14 is essentially the BDA-3 DAC with a high quality streamer internally connected with I˛S and features 10 different inputs including 4
HDMI, 2 USB, AES/EBU, S/PDIF RCA, S/PDIF BNC, and Toslink.

Some of these inputs offer PCM support up to 384 kHz / 32 bit and DSD support up to DSD-256.

The Bryston BDA-3.14 is essentially a BDA-3 DAC with a built-in streamer.

The innards of the BDA-3.14 revealing the Raspberry Pi board.

The built-in streamer features up to 192kHz / 24 bit playback and connects to Tidal, Qobuz, Roon, Internet Radio and more.

Access to external hard disk drives via USB or a NAS is also available with full control via web enabled devices.

The Bryston BDA-3.14 has a Raspberry Pi incorporated in its circuitry. That’s why the DAC-streamer is named BDA-3.14 since π (pi) equals 3.14.

Tony said the BDA-3.14 also has a digital volume control making it possible to connect it directly to the amplifier without having to go through a preamp.

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Old 01-15-2020, 09:20 PM
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James,

What is the warranty for the 3.14?
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Old 01-15-2020, 10:19 PM
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James,

What is the warranty for the 3.14?
Hi

Its a digital product so 5 years.

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Old 01-19-2020, 05:45 PM
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Can anyone comment on the quality of the preamp section of this unit? Can it hold its own or are you better off feeding it into a preamp?
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Old 02-06-2020, 12:45 PM
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MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston 3.14 DAC/STREAMER/PREAMP REVIEW


Music and movie streaming is becoming increasingly popular at an astonishing rate.

Introducing Bryston BDA-3.14 Streaming DAC

Streamers and streaming services have been here a while but are really now taking hold of the music and movie delivery to consumers at home and anywhere they are located using their phones or tablets.

I put off setting up streaming because (1) I have all my music on hard drives connected to OPPO BDP-105 and UDP-205 players, using a phone and tablet app that shows me a directory of the music which I can play by simply tapping on an album or track; and (2) I am not very proficient with manipulating my wireless network. This article is Part 2 of my project on showing our readers how easy it is to set up music streaming.

Bryston has released their new BDA-3.14 Streaming DAC. As the product name implies, it has a streamer combined with a built-in DAC which is capable of up to 32/384 PCM and DSD-256. For streaming, the highest resolution available is 24/192 FLAC, but you can use the separate DAC inputs for higher resolution files input from other sources.

The Bryston 3.14 hardware sounds superb with the music that I listened to from the Qobuz streaming service.

I will have a full review of the BDA-3.14 soon.

John E Johnson Jr.
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Old 02-06-2020, 03:30 PM
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SUBJECT: Bryston 3.14 DAC/STREAMER/PREAMP REVIEW


Bryston BDA-3.14 Renderer+DAC

CHRISTIAAN PUNTER 1 February 2020

RTFM (Read The Friggin Manual). Yeah, but that doesn’t go for me, right?

After fiddling with the BDA-3.14 for quite some time and getting no sound out of it using any of its inputs I was convinced that it was not functioning as it should. So, I reached out to the distributor via email, only to reluctantly pick up the manual while waiting for a response. Upon browsing it, I found the below A4 print…In my defense: the unit does not have any volume control buttons nor does it indicate its volume status on the front panel, and so, I was not aware that it even offered a volume control.
Its startup volume setting is around 50% and that’s attenuated enough to appear as silent with a regular volume setting on the CH preamp. After a restart, it returns to this setting even if it was raised before. This is a necessary safety feature that prevents heart attacks and damage to speakers but that nevertheless also always annoyed me when using any Wadia product. Fortunately, contrary to those Wadias, the BDA-3.14 allows the user to define the default startup level via its dashboard that is accessible via any web browser.

Functionality
The BDA-3.14 is Bryston’s current reference DAC and with its many inputs, streaming capacity and built-in volume control, it is meant to perform the central role in a multiple-digital-source system. If I explain that the BDA-3.14 contains the BDA-3 DAC as well as the contents of the BDP-Pi, can you guess what inspired the model number? Indeed, it’s mathematical constant Pi! Containing the contents and functionality of these two boxes in one for only 430 euros more than the basic BDA-3 DAC is a very good offer. The streaming component is not just slapped on either but properly connected via I2S which is the best possible connection. The BDA-3.14 has an unprecedented amount of inputs among which are two USB ports (jay!), 4 HDMI ports, AES/EBU, SPDIF on coax, SPDIF on BNC, TOSLink and a network connection. The built-in firmware has advanced a lot since the last time that I used a Bryston streamer and the current Manic Moose version looks modern, solid and intuitive while offering a wealth of configurable options.

Accessible via any web browser on any network-enabled device by typing my.bryston.com, the user is able to access all of the front panel functions in addition to a very wide range of other functions, including volume control. Just like with Antipodes servers, the BDA-3.14 offers user-selectable compatibility with a range of playback methods such as MPD, RoonReady, Shairport-Sync, Squeezelite, DLNA/UPnP as well as access to a Samba share.

The unit plays back PCM and DSD from the network as well as from USB thumb drives. For its simplicity and stability, for many users, the built-in Bryston Media Player will be the interface of choice. While I found that it works intuitively, quickly and very well indeed, I’m afraid that I am intertwined too much with the Roon interface to much like any other interface anymore.
Importantly, I found it is 100% stable also when using Roon. Besides local sources, the unit also offers an internet radio directory named bRadio and works with Tidal and Qobuz.
The manual also contained a leaflet that indicates that a nice remote control will be included later. As I noticed too late, the picture of that unit also contains volume up and volume down buttons. This is great for minimalistic systems that contain no analog sources but I still feel that the front panel should have an indication of the volume level for this to work on a level that I would be comfortable with.

As I wanted to compare the BDA-3.14 to other DACs in a similar price class that do not have volume control I did not further investigate this possibility but I have no doubt that it will work well. From Roon interface, the BDA-3.14’s volume level can be controlled directly.
Bryston notes that the maximum output from the BDA3.14 RCA connectors is 2.0V and 4.0V on XLR balanced and that an amplifier with a gain of 29dB can generate 100 watts with only 1-volt input. The manual does not state how the volume leveling is implemented but I would assume it is done digitally. Now, some people might be hesitant with respect to digital volume leveling but I use a digital volume control with the CH Precision C1 myself every day and can honestly say that it is often a better solution than an analog level control. The DAC stack above was only for quick initial comparisons. The final judgments were made with each DAC sitting by itself directly on the Artesania platform.

Review Context
The BDA-3.14 will be assessed in a system comprised of the CH Precision L1 preamplifier and A1.5 power amplifier with Martin Logan ESL15A and Magico S1 MkII loudspeakers. The digital source, as always, is the Antipodes CX+EX music server. For further comparisons, I also have the Aqua Formula xHD, Jay’s Audio DAC-2 Signature and the Denafrips Venus DACs as well as the Jay’s Audio CDT-II MkII and Aqua La Diva CD transports at hand. The interlinks used are Vermouth Reference between the DACs and the preamplifier and CH Precision Balanced Link between preamp and power amp. Finally, the speaker cables are Jorma Design Trinity and the power cables all Belden with Bals schuko- and Oyaide C-004 IEC connectors.
The BDA-3.14 was a demo model that had already seen use but I also allowed it plenty of time to come on song. That was more as a “just in case” than a necessity as I don’t feel that Bryston products need much if any warming up.

Listening
I started my listening to the Bryston BDA-3.14 after a long day at work without any prior comparisons. Connected at this time were the Magicos with the Aqua La Diva CD transport as a source. That’s because I am currently in a kind of CD-mood and as a result am comparing various CD spinners.

Anyway, the BDA-3.14 sounded really great!
There was absolutely nothing standing out that I could pick at and nothing obviously missing and it all seemed just perfectly proportioned. There was great resolution, perfectly natural timbre (no artifice) an overall solid sound with lively dynamics and without any hardness or edge. Along with the propulsive liveliness, there was also a subtle
smoothness and fluidity that prevented the sound ever becoming dry. And, as I have found out during earlier Bryston tests, if a product sounds fluid and smooth with the Magicos, then you can certainly trust that this really is the case. Now, certain products achieve a forgiving sound by sounding overly smooth but with the BDA-3.14 this is absolutely not the case. It is slightly smooth but also propulsive and lively.
Now it was time to switch to the Antipodes CX+EX music server with the aim to compare USB sound to Streaming sound, as well as to make a generic comparison between the Music Server and the CD transport. After having set the BDA-3.14 to RoonReady in the dashboard (it was in UPnP mode when I got it), the device was found by Roon immediately. Starting with the EX as the renderer, connected to the BDA-3.14 via Final Touch Audio Callisto USB cable, the sound was even more sonorous and spacious but less articulate and less spritely. The sound was still dynamic but more static than with the CD transport. This has nothing to do with the BDA-3.14, though, it is a difference that I have noticed with any DAC. The Aqua transport is just that spritely. Switching the USB cable from the EX to the CX so that the server and renderer are on the same device makes for a more nimble and articulate sound closer to that of the La Diva but I’m not sure if I prefer this leaner sound to the room-filling fullness of the EX. For more in-depth descriptions of these options please refer to the Antipodes review.

Streaming input
When bypassing the EX and CX’s renderer function and the USB cable and using the CX as a server only (just as I do with the CH Precision C1’s RoonReady ethernet input board) the BDA-3.14 all of a sudden strongly reminded me of the Bryston BDP-3 media player. Now, the sound was very close to that of the La Diva transport. Tighter, nimbler and more articulate as well as more direct, the Aqua transport remains the most energetic source but there is also a lot to say for the server sound. It seems that the physically more direct connection really also results in better sound. It’s always good to have lots of options, especially when talking about digital inputs. As the CD transports clearly illustrates, the DAC portion of the BDA-3.14 is really great. But especially when compared to the Antipodes server, it’s with its built-in streamer section that the BDA-3.14 is most impressive.
Speaking of options, I also have the 2500-Euro Jay’s Audio CDT-II MkII CD transport (top right) which is really interesting because unlike the La Diva and any other transport still available that I am aware of, it uses the famous Philips CDM4 swing-arm mechanism. This mechanism has a unique sound and the Jay’s player proper implementation of it results in a sound that is very fluid and utterly free-flowing combined with a big and rich bass. In terms of the latter, the Jay’s CD transport has a sound that is closer to the Antipodes EX sound and less similar to the La Diva transport.

In practice, when choosing between these two CD transports, this means that the user has a choice for a fuller, more relaxed and more free-flowing sound or a more urgent and more spritely sound. The former is more forgiving, the latter less so. The Aqua is more audiophile to a level where I even prefer it to the music server but at almost 8000 Euros it is also considerably more expensive than the Jay’s.

In any event, the BDA-3.14 clearly demonstrates the differences between these sources meaning that there is nothing wrong with its transparency.
Yes, there are more transparent DACs. The Aqua Formula xHD and the Denafrips Venus are both more highly resolving and more transparent. Both DACs use a discrete NOS R2R topology which gives them a cleaner, higher-res and more direct sound than most other DAC topologies. On an absolute scale, I would say that both these components offer more insight into the recordings and as such can be considered to be more high-end than the Bryston. In the case of the Aqua, there is no shame in that because the Formula xHD costs 13.670 euros. In the case of the Denafrips, the situation is more competitive as the Venus is more or less in the same price range as the Bryston. But here it becomes a matter of choosing between a pure DAC with more audiophile sound and a DAC that includes a ridiculously good sounding streaming endpoint as well as the largest selection of inputs that I have seen on a DAC yet. While both the Aqua and Denafrips DACs are more transparent and refined, as I mentioned at the start of this review, this is only evident upon comparison and that makes it a little bit more relative. The Jay’s Audio DAC-2 Signature, finally, also offers a very interesting perspective. At 3000 euro, it costs less than the Bryston so the question begs: how does it compare? As I already noticed during the Jay’s review, the DAC has an unusually solid and chunky sound, reminiscent of the classic Wadia DACs. When compared with the Bryston BDA-3.14, itself certainly not feeble or thin sounding, this still remains so.

The Jay’s has an appealingly lifelike midrange that makes for a very communicative sound and in comparison, the Bryston is smoother and even a little creamy through the mid-bass and lower midrange. While the other DACs confirm that the Bryston is slightly on the smooth side of neutral it is also true that the Jay’s is a little dry, just like the classic Wadias. Its dry treble goes hand in hand with more articulate bass and so this is a benefit as well as a potential pitfall. But this also makes that the Jay’s DAC works so very synergistically with the Jay’s transport. With the Martin Logans, I find that all the DACs have their perks and none of them have any obvious flaws. With the Magicos, however, it became clear that the Bryston DAC has slightly better resolution and a wider soundstage than the Jay’s.

Conclusion
Clearly, the BDA-3.14 is a great DAC with a truly excellent streamer section on board. The latter is not just slapped on but implemented so well that the result is an even better sound than via the Antipodes CX+EX server. When used as a standalone DAC using its SP/DIF input with any source, it holds up strong, even in comparison with much more expensive DACs. The BDA-3.14 has a solid and immediately likable sound with great resolution, perfect natural timbre (no artifice) and lively dynamics and without any hardness or edge. Along with the propulsive liveliness, it also has a subtle smoothness and fluidity that makes the end result revealing yet forgiving.

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Old 02-10-2020, 06:33 AM
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I was yearning for a player like this and thanks Bryston. My 2 channel and surround sound systems are one and the same. Currently have an Oppo feeding audio and video into an SP3 via HDMI - the SP3 does the decoding and pre-amplification and feeds the Parasound JC1 amp via XLR.= which driver my speakers.

1. If I use the BDA 3.1.4 for music listening should I just directly connect the BDA 3.1.4 to the amps and use the digital volume or should I connect it to the XLR inputs of the SP3 and run the SP3 in Pure Direct Mode wherein only the analog pre-amplification is used and not processing of the signal is done. Which do you think would be better.

2. Say in the above said scenario I am watching movies I run HDMI in to the Bryston from the Oppo and then the HDMI out of the BDA 1.3 is connected to the SP3 for decoding can the Bryston pass the HDMi signal untouched.

1. If I run a HDMI out from the Oppo to the BDA3.1.4 when playing SACD's and when I want to watch movies can I JUSfor SACD disc bitstream decoding. The question is when I start watching movies if I run a HDMI cable from the output of the BDA 3.1.4 to the Bryston will it pass through decoded audio and video to the Bryston.

2. The second question is do I connect the the BDA 3.1.4 directly to the Parasound JC1 amsp via XLR's or do I go
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