Difference between Memento and Homage

[NGeorge]

Originally Posted by Milimetr

Appearance comparison:

I must say that I like the look of old Guarneri, however it does not fit all interiors. As for new Guarneri I did not seen the Palladio finish – so I cannot comment. I have seen Red Violin and Graphite. I must admit that I prefer Graphite finish, however red Violin is also beautiful and more eye-catching in the first look. Red Violin is more room dependent and a little to “carrotisch” to me. There is also too much contrast between red enclosure, black pedestal and light gray base.

Graphite finish is more subtle, less eye-catching and definitely worse looking on all pictures. But in real word if you have black amplifier, black turntable and other black equipment it may fit easier to the whole system. Graphite is also less room interior dependant and for me is more sophisticated. It looks like a black pearl :-)

Exactly how I see it.

Cheers,
George

[Milimetr]

Originally Posted by 'cisco

I actually prefer the marble bases as they give a contrast to the black columns....they are pretty hefty at that...40-50 lbs each

@ ‘cisco,
I probably would not bother replacing original bases with black ones, but I need option to use spikes with regulated height. Also I already had all my audio rack shelves made of natural stone which is considerably different in color than Guarneri bases. Both stones placed one near to another did not look good. So the changes.

I have checked the weight of original base. Each base weights 35 lbs. Believe me - aluminum bases are even heavier at the same dimensions.

Thanks for comment.

['cisco]

Originally Posted by mgard

Cisco,

I see you are using a C220 and MC402 with your GM's. Are you totally pleased with synergy. Your system is pretty much what I am working toward.

mgard....I am totally happy with the synergy that I have now and especially now that I have the GM's I find myself listening more and more to my music and movies now...it's too bad I still have to pay the bills.

Originally Posted by Milimetr

@ ‘cisco,
I probably would not bother replacing original bases with black ones, but I need option to use spikes with regulated height. Also I already had all my audio rack shelves made of natural stone which is considerably different in color than Guarneri bases. Both stones placed one near to another did not look good. So the changes.

I have checked the weight of original base. Each base weights 35 lbs. Believe me - aluminum bases are even heavier at the same dimensions.

Thanks for comment.

Milimetr....thanks for your clarification about your listening environment...much appreciated. Any chance of getting a larger pic of your system?

Speaking of audio racks...I'm still weighing my options on one myself

At 35 lbs it must have felt like 40-50 to me...sorry no scale here

[AudioNut]

The bases are heavy . . . so heavy, in fact, that I dropped one of mine onto a table. Fortunately the table had a piece of glass over its surface. The glass shattered, one corner of the base chipped off (small chip, but it does bother me.) but the table wasn't hurt - once I cleaned the glass shards and stone chips off of the surface.

The table was one of my wife's favorites, so I count myself very lucky that only the glass and base suffered from my stupidity.

Julian

[j3brow]

Milimetr, thank you for your insightful review/comparison of the Homage and Memento. I have future designs on the Guarneri as a upgrade to my Auditors, although I always envisioned the Memento. Your review will be remembered and if I ever find a gem of a pair Homage's for 5k, i believe they will find a new home. I have no idea what $$ 2nd hand Homages run...hopefully 5k or so isnt pie in the sky thinking.

Something I extrapolated from your review is that the best of both worlds would be Homages with a pair of subwoofers.

thanks again for the insight. btw, love the look of your aluminum black base. Hopefully, the sonics of the Homage on the standard base - non tilted stand remain true to the conditions of your test.

cheers,
Jason

[metaphacts]

Originally Posted by jdandy

If your were so inclined, it would be easy enough to spray a sealer coat on the Momento stone bases, followed with two or three coats of satin black. This would give you a black base with the correct factory angle for the stand, and the correct weight for the speaker's stability and sonics.

The aesthetic of the Vicenza Stone trumps any finish on aluminum, imo. This is a great way to get a black base and maintain the natural textures/surfaces of the base.

The need for rake can be dealt with in a number of ways. Spikes while convenient, are unnecessary. No one needs spikes on any of the Guarneri's.

[Alberto]

Originally Posted by j3brow

Milimetr, thank you for your insightful review/comparison of the Homage and Memento. I have future designs on the Guarneri as a upgrade to my Auditors, although I always envisioned the Memento. Your review will be remembered and if I ever find a gem of a pair Homage's for 5k, i believe they will find a new home. I have no idea what $$ 2nd hand Homages run...hopefully 5k or so isnt pie in the sky thinking.

Something I extrapolated from your review is that the best of both worlds would be Homages with a pair of subwoofers.

thanks again for the insight. btw, love the look of your aluminum black base. Hopefully, the sonics of the Homage on the standard base - non tilted stand remain true to the conditions of your test.

cheers,
Jason

Jason, I sold my Homages for $5,800 a few months ago. They were late production model (last year of production) and flawless. So $5K is not pie in the sky and I have a feeling that these speakers, if well kept, will not lose much if any value. I paid $6,200 for mine, kept them for 3+ years and sold them for $5,800: about ~10/month for one of the most beautiful and best sounding speaker in the world - whatta deal!

But they do like power. They sang like birds with the 500W MC501s but I am quite sure that the 10W Shindos would **NOT** have mated well with them.

Alberto

[metaphacts]

Originally Posted by Alberto

But they do like power. They sang like birds with the 500W MC501s but I am quite sure that the 10W Shindos would have mated well with them.

Alberto

I don't know about 10w Shindos, but the 25w Shindos are definitely not enough if the Guarneri Evolution (similar impedance curve, sensitivity to Homage) are any indication.

[Alberto]

Originally Posted by metaphacts

I don't know about 10w Shindos, but the 25w Shindos are definitely not enough if the Guarneri Evolution (similar impedance curve, sensitivity to Homage) are any indication.

Ouch. Argh. Sorry, there was a very critical missing NOT in my sentence. I'll fix it ASAP, I'd hate anyone to be mislead.

Alberto

[metaphacts]

Originally Posted by Alberto

Ouch. Argh. Sorry, there was a very critical missing NOT in my sentence. I'll fix it ASAP, I'd hate anyone to be mislead.

Alberto

Don't get me wrong Alberto. I'm looking forward to hearing Guarneri Evolution bi-amped with 2 pair of Corton-Charlemagne. That will likely solve the power problem based on what I heard with one.