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I am heading out for a 3 day business trip today so Sunday will be the first day that I can devote some serous time to some critical listening. Coincidentally, my Chord DAVE has also arrived and I will be comparing it to the K-01X when paired with the N10. Best, Greg
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Hope you left the N10 playing on repeat while you are away. It's a perfect way to log some break-in hours.
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Dan STUDIO - McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MR88, Aurender N10, Esoteric K-01X, Shunyata Sigma spdif digital cable, Sonos Connect, PurePower 2000, Stillpoints, Furutech Flux 50, Michell Gyro SE, Michell HR Power Supply, SME 309, Ortofon Cadenza Black, Wireworld, Sonus faber Amati Anniversario LIVING ROOM - McIntosh C2300, MC75 (2), MR85, Magnum Dynalab 205, Simaudio MOON Neo 260D-T, Schiit Audio Yggdrasil, Aurender N100H, Shunyata Sigma USB cable, Micro Seiki DD40, Ortofon Cadenza Blue, Nakamichi BX-300, Sony 60ES DAT, PS Audio P10, Furutech Flux 50, Sonos Connect, Stillpoints, Wireworld, Kimber, PMC EB1i, JL Audio f113 VINTAGE - McIntosh MA230, Tandberg 3011A tuner, Olive 04HD, Sony DTC-59ES DAT, McIntosh 4300V, JBL 4312A Last edited by jdandy; 10-11-2017 at 11:44 AM. |
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Great thread. I have loved the N10 since it first came out. My buddy has had nearly every other server in his room and so far nothing is close to the N10. I'm using the Ayre QX5/20 over the Chord Dave, which I like a TON. I actually just got a Mojo as I like what Chord does digitally. I know that Charles Hansen of Ayre used a spdiff input on his QX5/20, so that's interesting to see that is the output you guys are using. It makes sense that output could sound better than the USB. I have been hoping to use my ethernet input on the QX5/20 as it's internally, optically isolated, plus I use optical isolation within the room, but I will have to get it in the room and check out all the inputs.
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Ayre knows how to implement good USB connections, doubt you will hear a difference over SPDIF. (I have a feeling USB will come out on top over the QX5)
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Olaf.......The Aurender N10's SPDIF outputs (coaxial, Toslink AES/EBU) are controlled by Aurender's fully shielded and independently powered proprietary digital output circuits and its incredibly accurate oven controlled crystal oscillator (OCXO) clock (0.02 ppm accuracy). The 2.0 USB audio grade output of the N10, as well as your N100H are very good but the asynchronous timing of the USN output is controlled by the clock in whatever DAC it is connected to. The huge improvement in timing accuracy associated with the N10's coaxial output does produce a performance difference. While I can appreciate your enthusiasm for the excellent and highly regarded Ayre QX5, it is my opinion that should you experience the Aurender N10's coaxial output connected to one of the SPDIF BNC inputs on the QX5 you would understand my enthusiasm for that connection over the USB. I keep both USB and coaxial outputs from my N10 connected to the Esoteric K-01X for direct A/B comparisons and also for DSD playback via USB, but my preference for PCM playback is definitely the coaxial output.
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Dan STUDIO - McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MR88, Aurender N10, Esoteric K-01X, Shunyata Sigma spdif digital cable, Sonos Connect, PurePower 2000, Stillpoints, Furutech Flux 50, Michell Gyro SE, Michell HR Power Supply, SME 309, Ortofon Cadenza Black, Wireworld, Sonus faber Amati Anniversario LIVING ROOM - McIntosh C2300, MC75 (2), MR85, Magnum Dynalab 205, Simaudio MOON Neo 260D-T, Schiit Audio Yggdrasil, Aurender N100H, Shunyata Sigma USB cable, Micro Seiki DD40, Ortofon Cadenza Blue, Nakamichi BX-300, Sony 60ES DAT, PS Audio P10, Furutech Flux 50, Sonos Connect, Stillpoints, Wireworld, Kimber, PMC EB1i, JL Audio f113 VINTAGE - McIntosh MA230, Tandberg 3011A tuner, Olive 04HD, Sony DTC-59ES DAT, McIntosh 4300V, JBL 4312A |
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Hi Dan,
Same here, I understand your enthusiasm for the Aurender N10, in combination with the K-01X the SPDIF connection will be the better choice, but the Ayre DAC's have one of the better USB implementations (and the QX-5 has also a great internal clock, doubly-rotated Morion quartz crystal-based oscillator) getting the most out of N10/N100 USB connection. There are more ways to get to Hifi heaven :-) Ctsooner will be able to give the end conclusion if he tries the SPDIF connection
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IF I get the unit back into the house, I will try them all. I will most probably use the AES/EBU connection between the two. I was told that the Ayre's Morton clock is as good as any unit you can get. I odnt' know the figures and can't find them. I do know that I feel the need to try them. Can I use the ethernet connection from the Aurender into the Ayre? I also find it interesting that Hansen uses a spinner with spdif connection. I also know he uses a Melco server.
I do feel that their USB connection is about as good as any I've heard in my system. I have had some top units in the house so I think I can make a decent decision when I get the N10 in.
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ctsooner.......I will be very interested to read your impressions of the Aurender N10 supported by the Ayre QX5. As for the N10 Ethernet connection, I don't believe you can connect it directly to the QX5. As I understand it, the N10's Ethernet connection is strictly for LAN connectivity. You may want to ask the folks at Aurender (support@aurender.com).
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Dan STUDIO - McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MR88, Aurender N10, Esoteric K-01X, Shunyata Sigma spdif digital cable, Sonos Connect, PurePower 2000, Stillpoints, Furutech Flux 50, Michell Gyro SE, Michell HR Power Supply, SME 309, Ortofon Cadenza Black, Wireworld, Sonus faber Amati Anniversario LIVING ROOM - McIntosh C2300, MC75 (2), MR85, Magnum Dynalab 205, Simaudio MOON Neo 260D-T, Schiit Audio Yggdrasil, Aurender N100H, Shunyata Sigma USB cable, Micro Seiki DD40, Ortofon Cadenza Blue, Nakamichi BX-300, Sony 60ES DAT, PS Audio P10, Furutech Flux 50, Sonos Connect, Stillpoints, Wireworld, Kimber, PMC EB1i, JL Audio f113 VINTAGE - McIntosh MA230, Tandberg 3011A tuner, Olive 04HD, Sony DTC-59ES DAT, McIntosh 4300V, JBL 4312A |
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I can't find the article now, but I recall reading that it's a custom clock which they source from the Russian manufacturer who actually cuts the crystals.
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