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Old 02-25-2017, 10:24 PM
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After revising the initial proposal, I've gotten the cost down to around $6,500. I will be ordering the acoustical treatments this coming week. I have been assured by my dealer, this will be money well spent.
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Old 02-25-2017, 11:05 PM
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I appreciate everyone's comments. The reason I'm asking is the cost estimate I received is north of $10k for a 12 x 12 room. The products would be coming from ASC. The other thing giving me some angst is the proposal is being done without anyone ever setting foot in the room.
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:20 PM
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You could hire an acoustician and treat your room for way less than $10K.

Look at RPG. http://www.rpginc.com/

Read Floyd Toole's book, "Sound Reproduction: Loudspeakers and Rooms".

You need less room treatment than you might think, especially if you have speakers with good dispersion and smooth, linear off axis response.

That said, a 12x12 room will have significant problems. Hope you don't have a 12' ceiling. Look at a room mode calculator to see what frequencies will be emphasized.

Is your dealer doing any measurements to show before and after analysis? Small room acoustics is a science and just throwing stuff on the walls (and ceiling) does not guarantee good results. I treated a 16W x 23L x 10H home theater for about 1/2 what you are spending (just the absorption and diffusion panels, not including what I paid an acoustician to design the room and treatment).

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I appreciate everyone's comments. The reason I'm asking is the cost estimate I received is north of $10k for a 12 x 12 room. The products would be coming from ASC. The other thing giving me some angst is the proposal is being done without anyone ever setting foot in the room.
I'd urge you to do more research. As Rex mentioned, your square dimensions are not desirable, but you should seek some additional quotes just for your own peace of mind.

Draw your room to scale and send the information to GIK or RPG and see what you get back from them. Assuming you're not hiring a designer, they'll be as good as anybody in estimating a package for your room. $6500 for materials sounds like a lot for such a small space.

By way of example, I'll be treating my 3300 CF room for about $1000 using primarily GIK's products. It's more important that you get the product where it needs to be than who actually makes the product as long as you're dealing with a reputable manufacturer and products of like type.
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I'd urge you to do more research. As Rex mentioned, your square dimensions are not desirable, but you should seek some additional quotes just for your own peace of mind.

Draw your room to scale and send the information to GIK or RPG and see what you get back from them. Assuming you're not hiring a designer, they'll be as good as anybody in estimating a package for your room. $6500 for materials sounds like a lot for such a small space.
I agree, getting proposals from more than one place would be a great idea. I have used all three firms mentioned (ASC, RPG, GIK). They all provide fine products, but there are differences. ASC is not cheap, but their products are low-VOC, and they work closely with you to customize for a residential setting. RPG also makes great products. Where ASC panels have fabric over the back, RPG BAD panels (which are great) have exposed fiberglass unless you special order. GIK also makes great products, at the lowest cost of the three. In contrast to ASC, some of their products are purely absorptive, which may deaden the room too much unless you're careful. Also, things like the GIK Soffit Traps are made to a lower aesthetic standard than similar traps from ASC. But, how aesthetic do you need?

Vicoustic also makes fine products, some of which are beautiful as well.

I agree with the suggestion to go slowly. The general way I go about things is to treat slap echo, first reflections on the sidewalls, and introduce some bass trapping. Evaluate and add refinements from there.

A Dayton OmniMic2 for < $300 can tell you a lot about room response.

Acoustic treatment, especially in a difficult room, may seem costly at first, but it can be the most cost-effective audio improvement you'll make.

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Old 05-05-2017, 12:32 AM
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Installed my ASC treatments this week. Wow! The difference in clarity and detail is amazing.
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Congratulations, @Amadave! What many don't realize beforehand is exactly what you noticed: that system articulation (clarity and detail) benefit tremendously when you treat the room. It's not just the bass that improves!
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