Summit X + Vienna Acoustics The KISS KLIMT

[Golucid]

Today, I goofed around in my office and added a pair of McIntosh MC275s to my office system running MC2301s as well as combining the following speaker arrangement: Summit X + Vienna Acoustics The KISS KLIMT

Note: I am a devoted fan of Martin Logan.

After adding the traditional box type speaker [Vienna Acoustics The KISS KLIMT] has added an additional auditory flavourful layer of sound. Wew...I can't put into words the sensory delights, but I am startled and the new sound dimension. I am getting both an electrostatic sound along with some traditional movement. The experience is fun and interesting.

Anyone else else try something similar: adding a traditional speaker along with electrostats?

[Bikeman71]

Sounds fun, but it seems it would be hard to get everything to hook up. Getting a subwoofer to seamlessly integrate into a system is hard enough for me...

[Mikado463]

did you start drinking early today ???????

[Golucid]

Originally Posted by Mikado463

did you start drinking early today ???????

I wish. I should be receive my 500C/T soon and brought down some equipment from my other place to my office and well...I didn't feel like working...so, I play with my audio toys.

[Golucid]

Here's a photo of my HomeDepot copper wire or whatever it is. Proof I am using the cheap stuff!

But, I do have a pair of AudioQuests connecting the MLs.

Only because they are pretty, I may get another set of AudioQuests for the looks only.

[audiokarl]

HI Golucid, i had contact to a Austrian guy, who was also experimenting between Summi X and standard build loudspeakers. In fact he switched completely to studio monitors.

I still like my summit´s very much as i´m in to electrostatic sound also with my headphones, which is my personal counterpart to the Martin logan system.

As my listening room is smaller, the distance to my summit X is not too far. This and maybe while it is very quiet in my living area, i hear some fanlike noise from the bass section of my summit.
We are quite sure (the Austrian heard the same noise) the reason are the digital amp´s serving the Sub speakers.
If you get close to the active Summit (without music playing) do you hear this too?
Reason i´m asking is that it could be a problem limited to european voltage.
Thanks
karl

[Golucid]

Originally Posted by audiokarl

..."i hear some fanlike noise from the bass section of my summit.
We are quite sure (the Austrian heard the same noise) the reason are the digital amp´s serving the Sub speakers."

Hi audiokarl,

I tested this out on my end and on both the VAs and the MLs. I hear nothing. Zilch! Though, this might be the case because I am running a Furman P-2400 IT. I did not test my speakers without conditioning.

Perhaps it is either the conditioner or the voyage differences. I do not know. Did you test your end using a conditioner like similar or otherwise?

Cheers,


David

[audiokarl]

Hi David,
thank you for your answer,

because of a overvoltage situation i had in my room that killed one of the summit boards, and to optimize current for the logans, i bought a Furman too.

Here in Germany, the Furman IT-Reference 16Ei is the best one can get for home hifi and it´s a real heavy box.
This one and a cheeper version of a Furman i had tested also, and this one was even louder, i got an extra noise problem. yes, they are noisy too.

It seems to be a problem with the german 220 Volt current system!!!!

The Furman hum origins from the big capacitor which was fixed to the housing.
Dam the housing vibrations helped a lot.

For the logans its a problem of the cheep digital amps on the summit board.

I use a digital amp, an Lyngdorf TDAI 2200 for the Loudspeaker´s.
No noise from the Amp. The same for the Esoteric D-02 DAC, STAX AMP... no problem at all.
Only a custom made KGSS staxamp from Iceland has a little hum.

The noise originating from the summit sub´s is very faint and it has to be very quiet in the room to recognize it.
But i thought for 20.000 euros they should be perfect!

Cheers
Karl

[audiokarl]

After doing some research now im sure that all of the Summit X ML Loudspeaker have that noise problem. Reason are real cheap and crappy digital amp modules in the bass segment. Montis should be the same.
So all of US customers i had contact to, have a closer EAR to your Summit X sub system.

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