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Old 07-17-2017, 10:12 PM
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I'm really interested in the upcoming comparisons between the MIT products and comparable Wireworld products. I've always been a fan of MIT cables, they've always sounded good in my system but haven't tried any of their higher end products since some interconnects that I tried on my analog rig. They are expensive but also fairly easy to find on the second hand market, MIT even has an online outlet that I've explored in the past. Looking forward to impressions!

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I am pretty anxious myself, and will probably start tomorrow by comparing these MIT speaker cables vs WW Platinum Eclipse.

I will be both open minded, and completely objective in my findings. I do believe there is very real science behind the MIT products.

The cables I received took well over 6 weeks from time of ordering. A lot of matching, burning in, and final testing is involved prior to shipping.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:29 PM
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I am pretty anxious myself, and will probably start tomorrow by comparing these MIT speaker cables vs WW Platinum Eclipse.

I will be both open minded, and completely objective in my findings. I do believe there is very real science behind the MIT products.

The cables I received took well over 6 weeks from time of ordering. A lot of matching, burning in, and final testing is involved prior to shipping.
My only reservation about MIT is that if the ultimate goal of music reproduction is straightwire with a gain, I've never understood how over engineering a product as simple as a cable (in comparison to other components in the chain) could result in something superior. It seems to fly in the face of common sense although I'm by no means an electrical engineer and I'm sure Bruce Brisson's physics skills are on a much higher plane than mine, not to mention I've used his products and like the way they sound. That being said, after comparing a couple of the Wireworld Gold and Silver XLRs that you sent me, I seemed to prefer what to my ears was a slightly cleaner and less "messy" presentation with the Wireworld cables (and the MIT interconnects had a higher retail than the WW cables to boot). I hope you enjoy what you hear, although it seems that you could be undercut pretty often with second hand MIT products since they can be found everywhere you look online for deep discounts.

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Old 07-17-2017, 11:58 PM
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My only reservation about MIT is that if the ultimate goal of music reproduction is straightwire with a gain, I've never understood how over engineering a product as simple as a cable (in comparison to other components in the chain) could result in something superior. It seems to fly in the face of common sense although I'm by no means an electrical engineer and I'm sure Bruce Brisson's physics skills are on a much higher plane than mine, not to mention I've used his products and like the way they sound. That being said, after comparing a couple of the Wireworld Gold and Silver XLRs that you sent me, I seemed to prefer what to my ears was a slightly cleaner and less "messy" presentation with the Wireworld cables (and the MIT interconnects had a higher retail than the WW cables to boot). I hope you enjoy what you hear, although it seems that you could be undercut pretty often with second hand MIT products since they can be found everywhere you look online for deep discounts.

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I totally understand what you mean, but I just put a ton of money into transparent stuff. Same idea. I dunno... To my ears, these networks actually do improve the sound. The parts necessary to make them is probably about $1 though. Tough pill to swallow.
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Old 07-18-2017, 09:40 AM
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Why would I purchase any audio product that doesn't get me closer to what I want to hear. Where some may seek products that add or subtract nothing that is the opposite of what I want to spend money on. I want my cables to impact the sound and that is why I have always been a believer in both MIT and Transparent products. Nice add Ivan!
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Old 07-18-2017, 12:46 PM
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My only reservation about MIT is that if the ultimate goal of music reproduction is straightwire with a gain, I've never understood how over engineering a product as simple as a cable (in comparison to other components in the chain) could result in something superior. It seems to fly in the face of common sense although I'm by no means an electrical engineer and I'm sure Bruce Brisson's physics skills are on a much higher plane than mine, not to mention I've used his products and like the way they sound. That being said, after comparing a couple of the Wireworld Gold and Silver XLRs that you sent me, I seemed to prefer what to my ears was a slightly cleaner and less "messy" presentation with the Wireworld cables (and the MIT interconnects had a higher retail than the WW cables to boot). I hope you enjoy what you hear, although it seems that you could be undercut pretty often with second hand MIT products since they can be found everywhere you look online for deep discounts.

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agreed Buck ............

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I want my cables to impact the sound
not sure I understand that one Jim ..........
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I think Jim is saying that just because it's a "purist" approach to have nothing but a straight wire, that doesn't make it sound better than a more complicated design: adding a network. Some, like me, don't care if it's purist or not, we want it to sound the best it can, and these networks seem to work some magic.

I like to call em snake oil canisters
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I think Jim is saying that just because it's a "purist" approach to have nothing but a straight wire, that doesn't make it sound better than a more complicated design: adding a network. Some, like me, don't care if it's purist or not, we want it to sound the best it can, and these networks seem to work some magic.

I like to call em snake oil canisters
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:55 PM
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I (think) I understand what Jim is saying, it all boils down to personal preference, many audiophiles would choose the 100% accuracy metric while others would prefer a component or element to their system that enhances their listening "pleasure" even if it may not be 100% true to the source. Nothing wrong with either approach IMO.

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I (think) I understand what Jim is saying, it all boils down to personal preference, many audiophiles would choose the 100% accuracy metric while others would prefer a component or element to their system that enhances their listening "pleasure" even if it may not be 100% true to the source. Nothing wrong with either approach IMO.

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weird that it posted my message twice before

I don't know if impedance matching networks are really "tuning" or "changing" the sound or not. It's possible that they are 100% true to the sound. I really don't know enough...but I do love the sound.
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This would make for an interesting poll of AA members. The purists vs the hedonists.
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