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Old 11-21-2014, 11:29 PM
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Now it is my turn. Due to health reason, I will remove wall to wall carpet out of listening room. It has been in used since 1998 with once every few years professionally cleaned, but still I feel there is something unhealthy in it. Looking for new wood-look flooring, be it 13mm laminated floor http://www.kronotex.com/cms/Products...D=aJA36I306fac, engineered wood floor, or even popular Korean made PVC floor. PRIME DECO I could get a livelier sound as a bonus, thick carpet absorb too much I think. Toga
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:55 AM
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I currently have wall-to-wall carpeting in my listening room and I'm considering remodeling the room with hardwood floors. Over the years I've found that adding a lot of acoustic damping (sound absorbers, soft furniture, etc.) has really help the sound blossom, particularly in the area of imaging and soundstaging. I'm wondering if hardwood floors will be too reflective acoustically and will result in underdamped acoustics. I know I can put down rugs over the floor but they won't be the same as plush carpeting. Anyone here have experience or advice regarding hardwood floors?
There is no best solution as hardwood is better or carpet is better. It is all about balancing the absorption and diffusion. Different materials have different absorption coefficients of frequency spectrum. Carpet is absorbing more of high frequencies while wall is more of a reflector while stonewool is absorber of low frequencies. Sabine equation is a useful starting point for the listening room to decide if there is a balance between absorption of frequency spectrum evenly or skewed. You do not want just hardfloor and bare walls in your listening room as the room will cause too much reflections and unwanted energy (wood is similar to bare wall, ie good reflector of all frequencies). Contrary, you do not want all walls and floor completely covered by carpet or rug as it will take away too much of high frequencies. Most practical way (unless you go thru a professional or similar room treatment) is to determine the most critical first order reflection points between speakers and listening room and treat them via either absorption or diffusion as well as balancing the reflecting surfaces (hard floor + bare walls etc) with some absorbing materials (carpet, curtains, painting etc).

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Old 12-08-2014, 01:18 PM
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The only true way for one to compare the two would be to put everything back in to the room after changing the floor in the exact same place. Nothing else changed, nothing else replaced, everything exactly in the exact same place. I believe you could change a floor, put everything back, but put your speakers back in a different position(maybe only a few inches different) and have such a different sound because of the new speaker positioning that you'd blame it on your new floor.

With that said, my ears enjoyed my system just as much or maybe even a little more with hardwood floors and no carpets. I put in some rugs for looks and comfort.

But, many musicians that play live are playing on a Persian rug, that suggests something to me.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:12 PM
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With that said, my ears enjoyed my system just as much or maybe even a little more with hardwood floors and no carpets. I put in some rugs for looks and comfort.
This is the most important point in this hobby and applies to all topics here; try differ things and do what personally sounds best to you.
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I have hardwood floors and enough paintings and shelves up that the room sounds great. I once bought a large area rug thinking it would improve the sound at it actually killed it. It's all going to depend on your stereo, your room layout and your personal taste. You never know. It may sound great.
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We tore out all the carpet and hand hard wood floors put in and honestly for me it did not make any difference. I think the reason though is because all my walls are covered with Sonex foam and or acoustic panels including large bass traps. I also have parts of the walls with 9 inch thick fiber glass covered with cloth covered tiger & lion. Also large throw rug etc.

I believe the room is 50 percent of the system. Carpet is probably better for acoustics than hardwood floors but good work around can be performed. Room looks better for sure.
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put a rug on the hardwood half-way between the speakers - move it close to you or farther with a mirror lying on it until you see the speakers in the mirror

then listen & compare
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turn it up
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