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Old 02-13-2018, 11:40 PM
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Oh man I love Martin Logan. The little Dynamo sub was the first piece of hi-fi I bought myself and didn't acquire from my dad or the shop.

It was always fun in college to take my EE buddies to the Hi-Fi shop and watch their faces when listening to and checking out Martin Logan speakers!
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:06 AM
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Sorry for the delay in posting my opinion of the 13a's, I've been busy listening and upgrading other aspects of my system. Of course everything said is in comparison to my previous Summit X speakers.

Good looks can go along ways towards our purchasing decisions. At first I had a few reservations with the styling of the 13a's, mostly the lack of curvature of the grill in front of the woofer. The Summit X speakers have curved woofer grills matching to the curve of the esl panel. The 13a does not have the same curve, just a flat grill in front of the woofer. I guess I have gotten over it with a little time. But the rest of the speaker is much better looking to me, just a more substantial look.

Build quality. The 13a is definitely a better built speaker, from both a physical standpoint and a ease of manufacturing standpoint. As for manufacturing I'm surprised it has taken this long to put all of the electronics of the speaker into a "bottom tray" so that it can be attached to the bottom of the speaker apposed to being inside the woofer cavity, far better system if you ask me. Also the aluminum framework of the esl panel is a much stronger assembly than before giving far greater rigidity to the speaker. Also the weight has been increased substantially making the speaker more stable.

Now for the sound!! The first quality that struck me was the bass. With the Summit X I always used a sub so for the last week of using that speaker if ran it full range so I could really compare the virtues of the new speakers vs the old without the added output of a sub. The bass response of the 13a is vastly better than the Summit X, tight clean and much deeper, enough so that I have not used my sub since and debating if it's needed anymore. The rest of the sound spectrum has that classic ML sound,.....open, big, wide and spooky real. Comparing the new vs old again, the 13a has better top end response, not as rolled off as the Summit X. The 13a also has the ability to play louder with greater clarity and ease, the Summit X can get congested at high volumes.

Am I happy with the change, yes I am. If I had a larger listening room I would have gone for the 15a but giving my room size I feel the 13a is a better fit. If you're in the market for Logans I can't recommend these enough. I have heard and owned many other speakers but few are this good.
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:53 AM
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Steve,
Glad you are enjoying your new speakers! Bass integration is the big bugaboo for these panel/cone loudspeakers, so I’m happy to see ML did such a good job with it. Congrats!

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Hi Steve,

Congrats on the 13a's...i have had mine since last march and i have upgraded the electronics along the way. to say that i am pleased is an understatement.

judging by the high quality of your stuff your speakers are well served.

the ARC is most appreciated and although i might have given the 15a a thought ,i feel they also would be too large for my listening room. (15 ft by 16 ft ....9ft ceiling)

i am totally enjoying my setup . the only thing that would interfere would be the dreaded "trade-up flu"
---they say it's extra severe this year----lol

some of my electronics: audio research ref6, krell duo 300, meridian 808.2 and pro-ject 12 xtension TT w/palo santos cartridge.--parasound jc3+ phono----mit wiring

all the best

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Old 02-24-2018, 05:31 PM
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Nice gear Mike!
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Subwoofers.... Martin Logan Balanced Force 212's (2)
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Old 02-24-2018, 05:46 PM
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Sounds like a great system Mike.
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thank you gentlemen!
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Old 02-26-2018, 12:13 PM
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Steve - it's great to hear that you are enjoying your new 13a's so much. You're now making me want to upgrade my Summit X! I love the look of your dual MC275's beside each speaker. That is great looking setup and must sound magical. I'm curious if you are using the 4 ohm or 8 ohm output taps?
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Steve - it's great to hear that you are enjoying your new 13a's so much. You're now making me want to upgrade my Summit X! I love the look of your dual MC275's beside each speaker. That is great looking setup and must sound magical. I'm curious if you are using the 4 ohm or 8 ohm output taps?


Thanks, I’m using the 4 ohm tap
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When I had my MC452 and 13's I actually preferred the 8ohm tap. But with the CLX I am using the 4ohm. Didn't even try the 8ohm. Thinking the CLX drop pretty low...
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