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Old 05-09-2017, 11:18 PM
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Default New Subs in the house!

Over the past couple of months I've been trying to decide what new speakers to put into the new audio room in the new house. Well ... got moved in and realized that the bigger room could use some help ... Since a picture is worth 1000 words let me introduce you to my help ... pair of BalancedForce 212's. Initial round of room treatment on the way so once I get the room setup I'll follow up with my impressions. So far ... Not too shabby!



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I like it. Looks real good!
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Great room and system!
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Very nice system. This is just a thought. Bringing your subs forward to the speaker sides or even a bit forward of speakers would help time align bass with rest of system. Your speakers are very fast and IMHO would help "merge" the system to highest performance.
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Good lookin system George!!
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Very nice system. This is just a thought. Bringing your subs forward to the speaker sides or even a bit forward of speakers would help time align bass with rest of system. Your speakers are very fast and IMHO would help "merge" the system to highest performance.
I thought so as well ... However, as it turns out, my new room has some standing wave issues at present(GIK monster bass traps coming soon) and with the subs moved forward I get a fair amount of phase cancellation in the lower frequencies that makes the system almost unusable. So ... used the custom filter from Martin Logan that actually lets the sub mostly replace the woofer in the speakers ... at least below 120hz and turned the bass on the Ethos down as per the instructions and it sounds much better. Even with the PBK it couldn't correct for the room issues ... pushed back a bit sounds much better given the room issues. Once I get the GIK panels in place I may be able to get the standing wave issues resolved so that I can move the subs around more and get to a more optimal setup. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Good lookin system George!!
Thanks kind sir!!! Congrats again on your new acquisition!
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I thought so as well ... However, as it turns out, my new room has some standing wave issues at present(GIK monster bass traps coming soon) and with the subs moved forward I get a fair amount of phase cancellation in the lower frequencies that makes the system almost unusable. So ... used the custom filter from Martin Logan that actually lets the sub mostly replace the woofer in the speakers ... at least below 120hz and turned the bass on the Ethos down as per the instructions and it sounds much better. Even with the PBK it couldn't correct for the room issues ... pushed back a bit sounds much better given the room issues. Once I get the GIK panels in place I may be able to get the standing wave issues resolved so that I can move the subs around more and get to a more optimal setup. Thanks for the suggestion!


You are more than welcome and you have a terrific system. This forum allows us to interject personal thoughts to try and help one another. Good luck with GIK panels. I know how difficult it is to deal with less than ideal rooms through my work as a CEDIA installer. Those panels should help and hopefully you will get the bass you're looking for.
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Very nice!...looking good.
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I thought so as well ... However, as it turns out, my new room has some standing wave issues at present(GIK monster bass traps coming soon) and with the subs moved forward I get a fair amount of phase cancellation in the lower frequencies that makes the system almost unusable. So ... used the custom filter from Martin Logan that actually lets the sub mostly replace the woofer in the speakers ... at least below 120hz and turned the bass on the Ethos down as per the instructions and it sounds much better. Even with the PBK it couldn't correct for the room issues ... pushed back a bit sounds much better given the room issues. Once I get the GIK panels in place I may be able to get the standing wave issues resolved so that I can move the subs around more and get to a more optimal setup. Thanks for the suggestion!
What's your standing wave frequency? My guess is it lies in the 30hz area.

I wonder if Soffits are what you need brother.

Monster stop at approx 50hz.
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