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Old 06-22-2019, 12:13 PM
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Old 06-22-2019, 04:13 PM
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MO the YGXV are plainly better than the XLF/Thor combination -- with all types of music.
Playing devil's advocate here......when you have or compare two state of the art systems such as these, what are the criteria to determine whether one system is plainly better than the other? I've listened to tons of state of the art systems at dealers and at shows and I've seen that when you reach a certain price point, it tends to be slightly different flavors rather than flat out "way better". I've also found (especially at shows) that it's sometimes hard to reconcile quanitity (i.e. extremely low bass) vs. quality. Anyway, I don't doubt that the XV system is up there in the top tier of state of the art but it's hard to believe that it would be "plainly" better than the comparable Wilson system.

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Old 06-22-2019, 06:40 PM
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Playing devil's advocate here......when you have or compare two state of the art systems such as these, what are the criteria to determine whether one system is plainly better than the other? I've listened to tons of state of the art systems at dealers and at shows and I've seen that when you reach a certain price point, it tends to be slightly different flavors rather than flat out "way better". I've also found (especially at shows) that it's sometimes hard to reconcile quanitity (i.e. extremely low bass) vs. quality. Anyway, I don't doubt that the XV system is up there in the top tier of state of the art but it's hard to believe that it would be "plainly" better than the comparable Wilson system.

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I agree. When I hear phrases like "plainly better" or "no comparison" with systems like these it makes me wonder if this is for real. There is no "best" speaker or amp etc, just different flavors at this level. But I will say that it is physically impossible for (8) 8.75" acoustic suspension woofers to remotely approach an XLF double Hammer system. I seriously doubt adding the dual driver 21" Invincibles could match two Hammers either. I note that Invincibles need 230 volts to get the 6,000 watts. I own a Hammer and it will move some air and at very low subsonic frequencies and you don't need any special wiring. The problem with all sealed subs including the dual driver 21" Yg Invincible is the resonance frequency of the cabinet and the massive power and cone excursion necessary to equalize the frequency response and create massive output an octave or two below below the resonance frequency of the cabinet. So if the resonance frequency of the cabinet is 50 Hz, then to produce 12.5 Hz you need over 100 times the power than at 50 Hz. So to produce the output of 10 watts at 50 Hz, assuming this is the resonance frequency, you need 10,000 watts at 12.5 Hz. That's why you need the 230 volts and 6,000 watts. You cannot get around the laws of physics.

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Old 06-22-2019, 07:03 PM
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Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1/D1 STACK, G01X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES

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I don't think I can post pics, sorry. Would if I could.
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Old 06-22-2019, 11:48 PM
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I don't think I can post pics, sorry. Would if I could.
Of course you can.
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Reference System: ACCUPHASE A250 AMPS, C3850 PRE-AMP, DP950 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC950 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-58 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO, FORTRESS SEATING, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1/D1 STACK, G01X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES

Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1 CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES
Bryston/Esoteric System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E650 INTEGRATED, DP560 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WIREWORLD GOLD CABLES
Bryston Active System: BP26 PRE-AMP, MPS2 POWER SUPPLY, BAX-1 CROSSOVER, BDA-3 DAC, BDP-3 PLAYER, BCD-3 CD PLAYER, BIT15(2), MODEL T ACTIVE SPEAKERS, 21B3 CUBED AMPS, SILENZIO, TARGET RACK, WIREWORLD SILVER CABLES

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I like their take on the BilletDome tweeter, very clever. But real nerd-heads like me would love to see real data with numbers. How is the impulse response? How does it decay on a CSD or waterfall plot? Everything comes with compromises. Nothing stops like a Raal. But they [Raal] can't go too low. AMT's can be scaled-up and go low, easily go "supersonic", handle gobs of power to survive a nuclear armageddon, track transients like nobody's business, but then there are beaming issues to accept on the top octave. How would a tweeter like this compare to a beryllium top-offering like a Focal/ SB Acoustics / Seas / Scan-Speak? Lots of questions remain....at least for me, lol.
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At last years RMAF, I was consistently smitten by the sound of the YG Acoustics speakers that were being demo'd in a few of the rooms. Every now and then I venture to Audiogon to sneak a peek and found this listing.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/li...1-3-full-range

I keep thinking someone is going to get a fabulous pair of speakers for a fraction of their original price. But alas, it won't be yours truly.
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At last years RMAF, I was consistently smitten by the sound of the YG Acoustics speakers that were being demo'd in a few of the rooms. Every now and then I venture to Audiogon to sneak a peek and found this listing.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/li...1-3-full-range

I keep thinking someone is going to get a fabulous pair of speakers for a fraction of their original price. But alas, it won't be yours truly.
I'm kind of torn on YG speakers, I've heard them sound amazing and not so great.....which I guess you could say about anyone's speakers given the right conditions. I would love to hear them in a person's audio room rather than at a show. I'm also not a huge fan of their look....I'd still take sound over aesthetics any day, but I've seen many pictures of YG systems and I just think they look a little odd in most people's rooms.

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