DSD - (Don't Stream Digital)

[James Tanner - Bryston]

Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o

I enjoyed reading these, certainly controversy.


Now, even though the spectrograph showed noise well above hearing, and the PCM had less, would any of us be able to tell?

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I think that is a good question and I believe Mark is trying to point out that DSD is not in fact technically superior than PCM even though some are presenting it as such.

james

[JBT]

Thanks for the links. Much appreciated!!!

[BlueFox]

Whether DSD is technically superior or not is irrelevant. If music files for sale are in DSD format then the BDP needs to play them, and the BDA needs to support them.

[doggiehowser]

There's an article in positive feedback from a recording engineer and artist about his experiences with DSD. Spoiler alert - they love DSD.


But then positive feedback is usually quite pro DSD.

[Puma Cat]

Originally Posted by BlueFox

Whether DSD is technically superior or not is irrelevant. If music files for sale are in DSD format then the BDP needs to play them, and the BDA needs to support them.

Exactly. It's all about a product meeting customer needs. At this point, if I were shopping for a DAC, and it did not support DSD, I simply would not buy it. Period, end of story.

[o0OBillO0o]

Originally Posted by Puma Cat

Exactly. It's all about a product meeting customer needs. At this point, if I were shopping for a DAC, and it did not support DSD, I simply would not buy it. Period, end of story.

I understand the need for capability.

Have you heard more than a hand full if albums, not originally in PCM, that are in the DSD format? Rhetoric - there are so few, it's hard to invest, even as a consumer , in technology at this time.

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[Myles B. Astor]

Originally Posted by James Tanner - Bryston

I think that is a good question and I believe Mark is trying to point out that DSD is not in fact technically superior than PCM even though some are presenting it as such.

james

Actually Jim, Mark does have a vested interest in PCM regardless of his statement to the contrary. He owns a recording company that sells d/l PCM based software. So I would hesitate to call him unbiased.

[CLEE]

Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o

I understand the need for capability.

Have you heard more than a hand full if albums, not originally in PCM, that are in the DSD format? Rhetoric - there are so few, it's hard to invest, even as a consumer , in technology at this time.

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DSD was already a major archiving format even before SACD came into being in the late 80's. Sony/Philips needed a physical delivery format to counter the then emerging DVD-Audio, fearing that their CD format might be eclipsed. They used something at hand and rushed SACD out.

[doggiehowser]

Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o

I understand the need for capability.

Have you heard more than a hand full if albums, not originally in PCM, that are in the DSD format? Rhetoric - there are so few, it's hard to invest, even as a consumer , in technology at this time.

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I think the new Sony media player and the tie up with the SuperHirez online store are all signs that things are moving in the right direction for more DSD material.

Am kinda regretting paying 200 bucks for the Mariah Carey SACD now

[James Tanner - Bryston]

Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor

Actually Jim, Mark does have a vested interest in PCM regardless of his statement to the contrary. He owns a recording company that sells d/l PCM based software. So I would hesitate to call him unbiased.

Hi Myles

I agree we all have a bias which supports our views and decisions or our business interests but I think offering those opposing points of views (bias) makes for a more informed customer.

I also agree that we at Bryston will probably have to address this DSD issue in our products due to market forces but touting DSD as some kind of Holly Grail is wrong in my opinion and it increases the confusion in the marketplace which is not good for our industry - just think VHS Vs Beta! DSD is just another music carrier available to the engineer at hand with its own set of plus and minus aspects.

My $0.02

james