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Old 04-21-2011, 11:45 PM
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:46 PM
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It used to be the 10% standard... I think that percentage has gone up, though, since the introduction of things like line conditioners, power cables, etc (not standard RCA or speaker cables like way back in the day). In other words, there's a lot more accessories to spend $$$ on.
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Old 04-22-2011, 02:06 AM
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My local dealer used to tell me 10-15 percent. Seems appropriate, to me at least.

Pete

I'm a bit unorthodox.

First I buy the very best system I can afford with all of my budget. I buy the least expensive 16 gauge wire and some pure copper interconnects with it. I dial the system in to the best it can possibly be.

Then and only then do I begin to play with cables. Budget? None. I let the system take me where it needs to. The better the system the more rules of thumb go out the window.

But as I said, I'm weird.
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:08 PM
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Cables can make or break a great system. Forget the price and concentrate on the sound. Then when you find what sounds the best you can decide if the cost is worth the improvement to you.

I just added it up, I'm just over 20% cable cost in my system.

Here's a crazy thought for you, my speakers and speaker wires have the exact same retail price. The not so crazy part is the speaker cables were used and cost me no where near retail price (cables usually have a huge markup).
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:12 PM
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I'm still adding cables to my Cape Rig; just got in a 6.0M Gold Starlight RCA to BNC for my MCD1100.
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

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Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:50 PM
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Great point Randy.

I have purchased and then upgraded in near future than had to do some re-upgrades.

If you can swing it I feel it is ok to over buy on the cables etc if you intend to upgrade the other components in the not to distant future.

So even if the cables exceed what you own, no harm except to the wallet, but in the long run you will be set and $$$s ahead right.


Joe do you have any sort of power AC line power conditioner for the system?

Depending where you live and like more the wall current can be pretty noisy and that is a good investment too. I certain someone on her has some PPPs for a good price

I got one to add to my other unit. Must say great bang for the $$s spent.

take care and great question to post..
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Thanks for asking. Yes, I have the "basic" Richard Gray 400. I did count this as a "cable expense" when adding up my figures.
In hingsight, I got my system, we went into a great bull market and I went nuts on cables! I am fine with it though. I would have always "wondered", and was not willing to spend the time buying/returning or asking dealers for loaners. I even bought the Cardas headphone cable upgrade & kept my stock cable. (and have not taken the time to do an "ABA" because I do not want to find out they might sound the same!!!!!------ I should correct myself and say "sound the same to ME. I have learned so much on the fora that eveyone seems to have not only different physiological hearing but better or different "listening skills!")

I just read the hype about George Cardas making the cable for his daughter who has the same headphones that I do, and that sold me. (as you probably know it is made for Sennheisers.)

Oh well, as they say "ya can't take it with ya!"
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:20 PM
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I'm a bit unorthodox.

First I buy the very best system I can afford with all of my budget. I buy the least expensive 16 gauge wire and some pure copper interconnects with it. I dial the system in to the best it can possibly be.

Then and only then do I begin to play with cables. Budget? None. I let the system take me where it needs to. The better the system the more rules of thumb go out the window.

But as I said, I'm weird.
I'm with you on that approach.

I've heard some amazing cable that has been pretty spendy and I've heard a few pretty good things that were not terribly expensive.
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Old 04-24-2011, 09:29 AM
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I too used to follow the 10% approach. Then I found out it just can't be such a fixed amount. Now, I don't go cable hunting all the time, but if I hear something that really brings a positive difference over multiple auditions, then I just whip out the credit card.

Of course, the upper limit I've set myself is no more than 30% of total gear cost. With more expensive gear, I'll drop it to 15 - 20%.

I just steer well clear of the 15 - 20 thousand dollar cables. Power conditions have done much more for me than cables in my system.
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