AudioAficionado.org  

Go Back   AudioAficionado.org > Audio & Video > General Speaker Discussion

General Speaker Discussion Calling all Speakers

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #231  
Old 01-26-2017, 03:20 AM
junker junker is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Waikiki,HI | Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 1,402
Default

Up to you but I prefer less solder and connections whenever possible. Jeff Day has a trick on the Duelund when he cuts the insulation and slides it up to expose some wire but leaves a small segment of insulation on the wire at the end. He shows it some place on his blog. It's pretty nice.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fjn04 View Post
For insulation, I only did one side (parallel) wall, as junker suggests. I didn't put a square on the ceiling above the horn. I don't get shout of any kind. I have a question about the Duelund 16Awg termination. Parts Connexion does termination. It takes 1 hour for them to terminate a pair of cables with bananas or spades. I just emailed him to get the cost, so I will know that soon. So I will cut to the chase. For my Jagusch crossover, I am using the Belden bare wire on both ends. The connection to the drivers seems pretty good, with the rather large tightening screw. But on the Jagusch, there is a tighter strip with small spacing, and a smallish screw which really doesn't seem to coral ALL the wire. Should I go small spades there, or am I OVER thinking AGAIN?
Reply With Quote
  #232  
Old 01-26-2017, 01:58 PM
fjn04 fjn04 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Clifton Park, NY
Posts: 602
Default

It's $60 per hour to terminate a pair of cables, weather it be Banana's, SPADES, or RCA's. Not bad, as far as I'm concerned. When I asked him if people also use the Duelund 16Awg for interconnect, he didn't answer that part of my email. But he's been very responsive, especially with this stuff costing what it does. Anybody using, or know if this as good for interconnect??? It's certainly low risk for me to try it? Should have my order in by tomorrow!
Reply With Quote
  #233  
Old 01-26-2017, 02:13 PM
junker junker is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Waikiki,HI | Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 1,402
Default

Typically the new Duelund 20 gauge would be more typical for signal level wiring.

Last edited by junker; 01-26-2017 at 04:43 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #234  
Old 01-26-2017, 07:17 PM
Idler Idler is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 9
Default

Josh,

What are you using to replace the small wire inside the compression driver which connects the terminal to the diaphragm? Are you re-using the ring tongue terminals on each end?

Don
Reply With Quote
  #235  
Old 01-27-2017, 01:05 AM
junker junker is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Waikiki,HI | Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 1,402
Default

Oh man.... this is a good question!

Did I bring this up before?? You're right that wire in there is NASTY with plastic sleeve crimp-on connectors.

Well what I did was use Duelund 2.0 foil wire, use a razor to trim back the insulation tap a small hole with a dremel, and thread screw through that. It's very sketchy to do and a lot of work... No solder, no connectors. I was thinking the Duleund 3.0 might be better... but now there is the Duelund stranded tinned 20 gauge that might be good, or the solid core silver...but it's only 26 AWG I believe. Maybe the Mundorf silver-gold teflon would be the way to? 1mm.

This is definitely a weak link and some special sauce can be applied here for sure...

Reply With Quote
  #236  
Old 01-27-2017, 10:07 AM
Idler Idler is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 9
Default

Josh,

Thanks for your update. I will definitely add this to my work order.

Regards, Don
Reply With Quote
  #237  
Old 01-31-2017, 10:47 PM
fjn04 fjn04 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Clifton Park, NY
Posts: 602
Default

Good News, Bad news, good news. I placed my order for 12 meters of the Duelend 16AWg. It's Out of Stock, so my order might take a couple of weeks. They now have the 20 gauge Duelend IN STOCK. Josh- I shot an email over to see if they concur with you about the 20 gauge being better for interconnect. If they do, I will buy some SwitchCraft RCA's, and get them terminated by a local friend who is very good at this stuff. So let me take this a step further, and ask here if the 16 gauge would be better than the 20 gauge for speaker wire? Cheers -Don
Reply With Quote
  #238  
Old 01-31-2017, 11:32 PM
junker junker is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Waikiki,HI | Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 1,402
Default

Th Belden ICs use 20 gauge. The signals are not much. For speakers I'd do 16 personally. Stock is 20 gauge but I'd still do 16 like the Belden 9497.
Reply With Quote
  #239  
Old 02-01-2017, 01:03 PM
fjn04 fjn04 is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Clifton Park, NY
Posts: 602
Default

Thanks Josh. I'm thinking that's the plan. I'm gonna ad a little of the 20 gauge for the purpose of interconnect, and use Switchcraft RCA's for the ends. This way, they are also ok to try in my Shindo system. Like you mentioned, I'm
gonna stick with the 16 gauge for Crossover. At one point in the future, it would be interesting to try this in place of the A23. Not as easy for me, since my components are on the long wall, and I use a 9 meter A23 SC.
Reply With Quote
  #240  
Old 02-02-2017, 10:32 PM
junker junker is offline
Guest
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Waikiki,HI | Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 1,402
Default

I ordered 40m of the 16 gauge for the two pairs of 604s. Backordered.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Audioaficionado.org tested by Norton Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:22 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©Copyright 2009-2023 AudioAficionado.org.Privately owned, All Rights Reserved.
Audio Aficionado Sponsors
AudioAficionado Subscriber
AudioAficionado Subscriber
Inspire By Dennis Had
Inspire By Dennis Had
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Wyred4Sound
Wyred4Sound
Dragonfire Acoustics
Dragonfire Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
Esoteric
Esoteric
AC Infinity
AC Infinity
JL Audio
JL Audio
Add Powr
Add Powr
Accuphase - Soulution
Accuphase - Soulution
Audio by E
Audio by E
Canton
Canton
Bryston
Bryston
WireWorld Cables
WireWorld Cables
Stillpoints
Stillpoints
Bricasti Design
Bricasti Design
Furutech
Furutech
Shunyata Research
Shunyata Research
Legend Audio & Video
Legend Audio & Video