Esoteric Grandioso... In the House!

[bart]

Originally Posted by -E-

http://www.audioaficionado.org/payments.php

Best $25/yr you'll ever spend.

I already saved thousands buying through Ivan.
Of course this means I spent thousands also...

[analog brother]

you gotta spend money to make money.

[o0OBillO0o]

Originally Posted by Masterlu

As I patiently wait, and occasionally listen as the Stack breaks in, I am reading and finding out more and more about these components.

Outstanding sound quality with 36-bit processing resolution

Aiming for the pinnacle of sound quality, we have incorporated the AK4495S, a state-of-the-art 32-bit DAC device developed by Asahi Kasei Microd-evices Corporation. Sixteen circuits per channel are provided to achieve phenomenal linearity and low noise. In addition to direct processing of the DSD signal, a new 36-bit D/A processing algorithm has been adopted for analog conversion of the PCM signal at 36-bit resolution. The result is fine, smooth sound quality as along with high resolution.



ESOTERIC has developed an original, state-of-the -art transmission format called ES-LINK4, which allows DSD and 352.8kHz/48bit PCM ultrawideband digital transmission using an HDMI cable. ES-LINK4 performs a large part of the digital signal processing on the sending side, greatly reducing the digital signal processing load on the D/A converter. In addition to ultra-wide bandwidth, we sought high sound quality through our “Pure D/A” concept, in which the D/A converter specializes in its original function of D/A conversion processing.
The D1 applies a 36-bit D/A processing algorithm that converts PCM signals to analog signals at a high resolution of 36 bits by combining several 32-bit DAC devices. The tone of the high-bit data is used for faithful analog conversion. The resolution of 32-bit encoding is 256 times higher than that of 24-bit encoding, and 36-bit encoding gives an amazing resolution level that is another 16 times higher – a total of 4,096 times higher than the resolution of 24-bit encoding. Producing even finer bit tones minimizes operational error for outstanding expression of even subtle music signals.
The clock circuit, which supplies highly accurate reference clock signals to a digital circuit, can be considered the core unit of a digital player. The clock circuit of the P1 and D1 is completely independent of other circuits, including its power source and ground, enabling pure clock signals to be supplied to the system. The voltage controlled crystal oscillator (VCXO) was developed especially for the P1 and D1 in a joint effort with Nihon Dempa Kogyo (NDK), a major manufacturer of crystal oscillators. For a high-precision custom clock device worthy of leading models, high sound quality playback is provided thanks to an extremely low level of phase noise and a crystal element that is even larger than before.

This player is like Gold Discs from DCC. The construction, materials, and quality is peerless. TEAC has gone to great lengths to "max" out the Esoteric Brand. The music is still presented on the disc in bitperfect quality.

This technical jargon touts good numbers, but:

1. Proprietary connections aren't as good as open standards.
2. Most music is 16bit / 44Khz.
3. The difference between, 16bit and 24bit is essentially inaudible noise.
4. 36 bit does not make a meaningful difference. see above.

The great:

• Looks, wow!
• Build Quality, construction and design.
• VCXO, with inputs.
• S/PDIF Digitial output (industry standard)

Don't take my comments as disparaging, this Disc Player is among the best built that money can buy. I felt it was necessary to identify the "smoke and mirrors" marketing terms from its core points of value.

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o

This player is like Gold Discs from DCC. The construction, materials, and quality is peerless. TEAC has gone to great lengths to "max" out the Esoteric Brand. The music is still presented on the disc in bitperfect quality.

This technical jargon touts good numbers, but:

1. Proprietary connections aren't as good as open standards.
2. Most music is 16bit / 44Khz.
3. The difference between, 16bit and 24bit is essentially inaudible noise.
4. 36 bit does not make a meaningful difference. see above.

The great:

• Looks, wow!
• Build Quality, construction and design.
• VCXO, with inputs.
• S/PDIF Digitial output (industry standard)

Don't take my comments as disparaging, this Disc Player is among the best built that money can buy. I felt it was necessary to identify the "smoke and mirrors" marketing terms from its core points of value.

Bill... don't take this the wrong way; but a lead engineer from Esoteric emailed me today. He asked me politely to ask you not to comment on their products for which you know little about.

[Colekat]

Thanks Ivan, It is amazing how many times I've read about how the Esoteric scheme is all smoke and mirrors, for which the digital math doesn't allow for any overall influence in the sound output.... Well After listening for several months now, I disagree.

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by Colekat

Thanks Ivan, It is amazing how many times I've read about how the Esoteric scheme is all smoke and mirrors, for which the digital math doesn't allow for any overall influence in the sound output.... Well After listening for several months now, I disagree.

[o0OBillO0o]

Originally Posted by Masterlu

Bill... don't take this the wrong way; but a lead engineer from Esoteric emailed me today. He asked me politely to ask you not to comment on their products for which you know little about.

Ivan.. I completely understand. You've got my email, put us in contact and I'd love to hear from Esoteric.

If that's not an option, Points 1-4, aren't specific to the Esoteric. They apply to most users who listen to CDs.

I'm an advocate for state of the art, which I believe what Esoteric represents. If I "know nothing", like John Snow, please "beat me up and drag me over the coals" to what we should know. I'll eat crow.

[Golucid]

Is Esoteric a subsidiary brand of Teac?

[Golucid]

Never mind, I answered my own question.

TEAC Corporation (pronounced "Tee-ack") is an electronics company based in Japan. TEAC was founded in 1953 as the Tokyo Electro Acoustic Company.[1]

TEAC has four divisions:

• TASCAM - consumer to professional audio products, mostly recording
• ESOTERIC - High-end consumer audio products
• TEAC Consumer Electronics - Mass market audio products
• Data Storage and Disk Publishing Products - Floppy drives, DVD and CD recorders and drives, MP3 players & NAS storage

TEAC is known for its audio equipment, and was a primary manufacturer of high-end audio equipment in the 1970s and 1980s. During that time, TEAC produced notable reel-to-reels, cassette decks, CD players, turntables and amplifiers.
Of particular note is that TEAC produced an audio cassette with tape hubs that resembled reel-to-reel tape reels in appearance. Many manufacturers at the time used these TEAC cassettes in advertisements of their tape decks because the TEAC cassettes looked more professional than standard audio cassettes, and because reel-to-reel tape recordings were known to be of higher quality than cassette recordings.
In the 80s and 90s TEAC became well known for producing inexpensive high quality floppy disk drives. Up until the mid 90s floppy drive quality was inconsistent, often resulting in a disk that could be read only with the drive that wrote it due to minor variances in manufacturing specifications.[citation needed] TEAC became a leader in high quality floppy drives during this time.


TEAC History

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by o0OBillO0o

Ivan.. I completely understand. You've got my email, put us in contact and I'd love to hear from Esoteric.

If that's not an option, Points 1-4, aren't specific to the Esoteric. They apply to most users who listen to CDs.

I'm an advocate for state of the art, which I believe what Esoteric represents. If I "know nothing", like John Snow, please "beat me up and drag me over the coals" to what we should know. I'll eat crow.

Maybe you should quit where you are.