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Old 05-14-2013, 09:51 PM
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They look awesome Toga, congratulations, like everyone else am looking forward to hearing more.

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Old 05-14-2013, 10:28 PM
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I curious two woofers barely moved even with Ayre burn in track that usually made other speakers woofers dance like boiling water.

Ok Q7 really bring new experience, they dont sound like other Magico, tonally similar but much more transparent and
Energetic. They make me thing of MBL 101E in overall presentation rather than thinking of Q3. One thing that make me miss my Q3 is the bass punch, from mid bass down to deepest note, Q3 made much stronger feeling. Tweeter is big improvement
Over Q3 's. now i don t miss this treble quality in Salon2 anymore. I expect when I use Transparent jumpers, transparency and high freq extention will dropped a bit but gaining in warm and richer tone.
About bass, in my experience with q3 they are highly sensitive to floor coupling. With Q3 put straight on carpet floor, bass
Was much too heavy and thick. Installing spikes make sound exactly same as what I have from Q7 now, light bass weight.
By insert spike discs under spikes make Q3 bass best balanced and natural. So I still have some hope that with proper
Floor coupling rather than on supermarket cart wheels, I will get more weight.
I am Most troubling by fact that I cannot do position fine tuning alone, when i push them , wheel alignments changed and I cannot rotate those wheels without making speaker position changed.

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Old 05-14-2013, 10:36 PM
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WooooW, very nice enjoy

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This is the sound that I hoped to get in 2007 when I purchased Thiel 3.7.
I never imagined that to get this kind of sound would require this much effort and $$$
I am thinking to build something that help me lift them without having to pay for Magico lifter. No! Not included.
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:12 PM
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here they are .
More about this later.
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:23 AM
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Toga, big congrats! Did your dealer help you set your speakers up? When I received my Maxxes I had done a lot of preparation as to where I was going to initially position them. I had carefully read the owners manual taking into consideration all the help it gave. Typically, an isosceles triangle (not an equilateral) works out the best. If the speakers are correctly configured in the back so that the woofers are "doing their thing" as they should and you are certain of this fact, then you may want to try for a more "in the corners of the room" placement to enhance bass weight.

Getting back to the dealer, he should help you position these speakers. As to floor coupling the immense weight of this speaker should couple it to the floor automatically even with the casters, although I'm sure spikes etc may add some additional focus/tightness. My dealer spent about six hours setting up my Maxxes even though once set in their initial positions, they were never moved. Later on the casters were removed and the final spiking was done with some small improvement in the bass. When my dealer left I was totally satisfied with my sound.

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Old 05-15-2013, 02:38 AM
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Charles, dealer did not fine tune anything as it was late in the afternoon already.

Once speaker have more running hours they will come with lifter to remove casters.
With casters, the q7 base is 4" off ground. But Q3 in this exact position has more bass drive.
I will need some more time to use XTZ to measure bass response in each different positions in a later day.

Its quite a surprise to me, i did expect much better bass improvement but with similar mid/ high to Q3.
The result is opposite, quality of mid/high is like a different world from Q3 while I get less bass impact.
Not that they are bass shy, just that coming from 3 of 7" woofers to twin 12"+single 10" I expect more.
Of course they are all connect in-phase. I curious why don't Magico use this same mid and tweeter in other speakers in Q series. Like Q1/3/5 MKII . They are so good.

What I wanna do most now is to drive them with ARC Ref75. Just can't due to insufficient cable length.

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Old 05-15-2013, 02:56 AM
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Toga...Congrats! I am sure you can find a small lift trolley that you can carpet for those many lifts you have yet to do!

Those wheels will certainly do nothing for your bass. Even so, I would think it is way to early to even wonder.

I like to use spike isolators too & agree they facilitate steady, chesty bass.

You may like to try Quadraspire QX7 Spike Isolators. I think they will even tame your monsters when they begin to sing.




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Old 05-15-2013, 04:11 AM
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Thanks Mypal for idea.

Q7 feet is not spike type. They re just a feet.
Will show pictures, yesterday dealer forgot to bring the feet case.

Ok here is how sensitive the Q7 is. From my AVP set up screen.
Keep in mind Moon s 31 dB gain too.
Also a lift for fine movement once casters removed.

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Old 05-15-2013, 05:57 AM
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Toga! Toga! Toga!!!


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