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Old 11-29-2017, 08:35 PM
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This will be a fun one. Good choices. What are you using for an amp right now? I'm just wondering if you need that kind of power with the 805s. Maybe better off investing in a powered sub?
currently using Rotel RB1582 MK II.
Iam looking at soundstage, details and imaging improvements and read that many are happy to match the MC 452 with C2300,2500,2600.

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Old 11-29-2017, 08:38 PM
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Both are great products, if you can have an audition at a nearby pass lab dealer with your speakers, just let your ears make the decision.
I agreed that both are great amp.
Dam just wondering which would be a better match, probably Mcintosh chain? like what u have.
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:35 PM
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currently using Rotel RB1582 MK II.
Iam looking at soundstage, details and imaging improvements and read that many are happy to match the MC 452 with C2300,2500,2600.

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What are your source components?
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Old 02-12-2018, 08:11 AM
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Hi guys, iam looking to replaced my stock tubes and looking for recommendations.
and also I would like to asked if 12AX7 and 12AX7A the same?
I don't use MM or MC so do I need to change them?

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Old 02-12-2018, 09:51 AM
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Hi guys, iam looking to replaced my stock tubes and looking for recommendations.
and also I would like to asked if 12AX7 and 12AX7A the same?
I don't use MM or MC so do I need to change them?

Thank you.
Same tube Sir & if you don't use a TT, you can leave them be.

12AX7: the original version of this tube. This can only be used in parallel filament circuits. This is not a big deal as virtually all audio equipment is of a parallel filament design.

12AX7A: This version can be used in series or parallel filament circuits. Sometimes, 12AX7A tubes made for the US Military are labeled 12AX7WA, and have seen WB and WC versions. The W is the military type code, A,B, and C are progressively later productions.

Quite a few McIntosh owners seem to be happy with the reissue Gold Lion Gold Pins. Tube rolling with various other brands can yield favorable results as well, but can start to be expensive when one amasses 12v tubes from GEC, RCA, Sylvania, Telefunken, Siemens, GE, Amperex, Phillips and the list goes on.

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Signal Cables:Nordost Odin XLR's on dCS DAC & Amps.
Digital Cables: Nordost Odin 2's, 110-ohm AES/EBU on dCS Transport to DAC.
Clock Cables:5 each 75 ohm 1.25M Nordost Valhalla BNC/BNC Digital
Ethernet Cable: WireWorld Platinum 1M Starlight® 8 Twinax
Headphones:Vintage Koss Pro IV AA.
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Same tube Sir & if you don't use a TT, you can leave them be.

12AX7: the original version of this tube. This can only be used in parallel filament circuits. This is not a big deal as virtually all audio equipment is of a parallel filament design.

12AX7A: This version can be used in series or parallel filament circuits. Sometimes, 12AX7A tubes made for the US Military are labeled 12AX7WA, and have seen WB and WC versions. The W is the military type code, A,B, and C are progressively later productions.

Quite a few McIntosh owners seem to be happy with the reissue Gold Lion Gold Pins. Tube rolling with various other brands can yield favorable results as well, but can start to be expensive when one amasses 12v tubes from GEC, RCA, Sylvania, Telefunken, Siemens, GE, Amperex, Phillips and the list goes on.

Best to you,

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oh ya, I remember reading that u are a tube specialist.
Can u PM me?

Thank you
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:14 AM
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oh ya, I remember reading that u are a tube specialist.
Can u PM me?

Thank you
For annual subscription of $25 you can become a subscriber where PM's and benefits of the AA marketplace amongst other bennies which then become available.

AA'ers are unable to PM non-subscribers.

It's well worth the $.

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Digital Source: dCS Rossini CD/SACD Transport, Vivaldi APEX DAC, Upsampler Plus & matching Clock (Silver)
Analogue Preamp:VAC Renaissance SE Phono stage in Silver Flake with XLR Output Option & with Nordost Valhalla XLR's.
Analogue Sources:SME 20/2 w/SME V arm & Nordost Odin 2 Tone Arm Cable, Palo Santos Presentation Cartridge & Akai GX-400D Reel-to-Reel w/relapped heads by JRF Magnetic Sciences. Akai RC-17 cabled remote (original owner since 1974).
Vibration Control:TT on HRS M3X2-1921 shelf.
Speakers:Wilson Audio Alexia V (on order in Ferrari Argento Silver/Parchment grills sitting on Acoustic Diode Kit).
Power Cables:4 Nordost Odin Supreme Reference on amps, preamp & DAC. Ansuz Acoustics C2 on Transport & Clock.
Power Distribution:Ansuz Mainz D3 Distributor & Ansuz Mainz C2 1M Power Cable
Power Outlets:Furutech GTX-D NCF (R) duplex outlet, GTX Wall Plate & Duplex Cover (x2) on dedicated, same panel phase, 20A breakers.
Speaker Cables:2M Nordost Odin 2 Supreme Reference on Nordost Sort Lifts. (on Order)
Signal Cables:Nordost Odin XLR's on dCS DAC & Amps.
Digital Cables: Nordost Odin 2's, 110-ohm AES/EBU on dCS Transport to DAC.
Clock Cables:5 each 75 ohm 1.25M Nordost Valhalla BNC/BNC Digital
Ethernet Cable: WireWorld Platinum 1M Starlight® 8 Twinax
Headphones:Vintage Koss Pro IV AA.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:16 AM
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For annual subscription of $25 you can become a subscriber where PM's and benefits of the AA marketplace amongst other bennies which then become available.

AA'ers are unable to PM non-subscribers.

It's well worth the $.

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Well worth indeed! Valuable info and intel Listen to Bob. And me every now & then
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Preamp:VAC Statement (on order) (Silver Flake)
Digital Source: dCS Rossini CD/SACD Transport, Vivaldi APEX DAC, Upsampler Plus & matching Clock (Silver)
Analogue Preamp:VAC Renaissance SE Phono stage in Silver Flake with XLR Output Option & with Nordost Valhalla XLR's.
Analogue Sources:SME 20/2 w/SME V arm & Nordost Odin 2 Tone Arm Cable, Palo Santos Presentation Cartridge & Akai GX-400D Reel-to-Reel w/relapped heads by JRF Magnetic Sciences. Akai RC-17 cabled remote (original owner since 1974).
Vibration Control:TT on HRS M3X2-1921 shelf.
Speakers:Wilson Audio Alexia V (on order in Ferrari Argento Silver/Parchment grills sitting on Acoustic Diode Kit).
Power Cables:4 Nordost Odin Supreme Reference on amps, preamp & DAC. Ansuz Acoustics C2 on Transport & Clock.
Power Distribution:Ansuz Mainz D3 Distributor & Ansuz Mainz C2 1M Power Cable
Power Outlets:Furutech GTX-D NCF (R) duplex outlet, GTX Wall Plate & Duplex Cover (x2) on dedicated, same panel phase, 20A breakers.
Speaker Cables:2M Nordost Odin 2 Supreme Reference on Nordost Sort Lifts. (on Order)
Signal Cables:Nordost Odin XLR's on dCS DAC & Amps.
Digital Cables: Nordost Odin 2's, 110-ohm AES/EBU on dCS Transport to DAC.
Clock Cables:5 each 75 ohm 1.25M Nordost Valhalla BNC/BNC Digital
Ethernet Cable: WireWorld Platinum 1M Starlight® 8 Twinax
Headphones:Vintage Koss Pro IV AA.
RCM: Audio Desk PRO
Tube Test Gear:Mint late '60's/calibrated Heathkit TT-1A, MaxiMatcher Power Amp & Preamp & Space Tech Labs ATT-3.02 tube test sets.
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Old 02-13-2018, 12:38 AM
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I don’t use a TT. Will those tubes burn out at some point and need to be replaced (I assume the heater is running at least)? I recall a discussion in another thread talking about needing working tubes in place, or it could impact sq.
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