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Old 09-02-2016, 08:53 AM
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Oh no an ARC troll!
I couldn't disagree more. ARC is making some of their best ever units now.
Ref 75, GS150, Ref 6 and 10 are all classics. And the SE upgrades of their amps to use KT150 are fantastic. They are winning "component of the year" in various places (e.g., Tone Audio 2015) and top scores in Hi Fi News, A's in Stereophile, etc
IMHO ARC is at the top of their game.

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Old 09-02-2016, 09:36 AM
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Oh no an ARC troll!
I couldn't disagree more. ARC is making some of their best ever units now.
Ref 75, GS150, Ref 6 and 10 are all classics. And the SE upgrades of their amps to use KT150 are fantastic. They are winning "component of the year" in various places (e.g., Tone Audio 2015) and top scores in Hi Fi News, A's in Stereophile, etc
IMHO ARC is at the top of their game.

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+1... Arc is doing it right. Haters can hate.
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Old 09-02-2016, 03:32 PM
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I was never a fan of ARC until latest offerings. I always find it too analytical for my taste. One man's trash is another man's treasure!

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Old 09-02-2016, 05:20 PM
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I started this thread to see how other Ref 6 owners experienced break-in changes rather than bash or trash ARC. There are plenty of other places to do that. If comments could be brought back to the original topic it would be most appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 09-02-2016, 05:36 PM
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Let's clean this thread up a bit, shall we. On AA we don't hijack threads, nor bash other brands; nuff said?
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I started this thread to see how other Ref 6 owners experienced break-in changes rather than bash or trash ARC. There are plenty of other places to do that. If comments could be brought back to the original topic it would be most appreciated. Thanks.
hello..i just fired up a new ref6. i am disappointed.

it did not " sound great out of the box".

exactly what transpires during break-in? i hope it turns into a completely different preamp.

i just do not see see this changing so much. i feel that "it is what it is" generally speaking.

i not much of a believer of a massive change in new audio equipment.

this thing needs a new personality imho.

not thrilled at all.

hope i am wrong.

mike
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:45 AM
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hello..i just fired up a new ref6. i am disappointed.

it did not " sound great out of the box".

exactly what transpires during break-in? i hope it turns into a completely different preamp.

i just do not see see this changing so much. i feel that "it is what it is" generally speaking.

i not much of a believer of a massive change in new audio equipment.

this thing needs a new personality imho.

not thrilled at all.

hope i am wrong.

mike
what's your return policy ?
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:38 AM
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Yes, bright when new. Replaced power cord and went to BLACK fuses. Only got and getting better.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:18 PM
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Granted it has less than 10 hours on it. I called audio research...they assured me it needs time..would they tell me otherwise?.we will see...return policy?..is that a joke??..fingers crossed that it will transform....mike
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:25 PM
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Granted it has less than 10 hours on it. I called audio research...they assured me it needs time..would they tell me otherwise?.we will see...return policy?..is that a joke??..fingers crossed that it will transform....mike
It does need quite a bit of break in time. Out of the box my ex ARC REF250 monos and Ref 40th anniv. preamp sounded very sterile and lean. Over the course of a few weeks the soundstage started to open up and the system started gaining in weight, body and proper scale. Of course system synergy also comes into play. What is the rest of your system like?
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