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Old 03-19-2018, 02:11 AM
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I’ve recently heard the 800D3 with the BHK Monos in a large room (6m x 11m). And it sounded amazing

When I saw another 800D3 in a smaller room (4.5mx6.5m) I thought it was going to be overwhelming in the room based on the feedback here.

So I was honestly amazed how controlled it sounded. It was powered by a Dan D’Agastino Classic Master 2+

Maybe the amp makes a difference too.
Hi doggiehowser,
Which one you preffered BHK or the Classic Stereo?
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Old 03-19-2018, 02:21 AM
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Hi, I am using 25Lx15Wx7,feet high basement Room for my audio, I am also struggling with the idea of 802 VS 800D3; I know 803D3 sound sweet and coherent but i could get enough bass out of it despite MC 1.2K amp, it got louder sure enough to bother every one
My move is incremental; i might consider 802 for now.
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Way more than enough, the 800d3 is better
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Old 03-19-2018, 07:26 AM
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Hi doggiehowser,
Which one you preffered BHK or the Classic Stereo?
Cheers

I preferred the BHK. But then I’m partial to tubes.

It’s two very different setups.

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DSDAC with Bridge 2
BHK Pre
BHK Monos

The second was
Linn Klimax DSM
Dan D Agastino Master Stereo 2+

If i can get a loan of the Master Stereo 2+, I might want to see how it pairs with the Audio Research Ref 6.
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:53 AM
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Two weeks ago i had the same listening: 800D3 vs 802D3 at my dealers room.
That room was a bit overdamped for me, but one thing was very clear: More bass authority on the 800.
And... I was asking him if i'm mad, but the 800 sounds clearer and a bit opener in the mids and higher mids.
Ended up with buying a pair of white 802D3 as my room is a bit too small for the big bass of the 800. And the extra 8 grands are also too serious for my bank account...

Together with my Nubert NuPower A (german manufacturer, very underestimated and way too cheap for what they do) it sounds very clear and powerful and i'm very happy with that decision.
Also bought a DB2D-Sub. Wow!

Before i had the wonderful N802 in cherry for 17 years. What an upgrade!
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Old 03-25-2018, 02:27 PM
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Two weeks ago i had the same listening: 800D3 vs 802D3 at my dealers room.
That room was a bit overdamped for me, but one thing was very clear: More bass authority on the 800.
And... I was asking him if i'm mad, but the 800 sounds clearer and a bit opener in the mids and higher mids.
Ended up with buying a pair of white 802D3 as my room is a bit too small for the big bass of the 800. And the extra 8 grands are also too serious for my bank account...

Together with my Nubert NuPower A (german manufacturer, very underestimated and way too cheap for what they do) it sounds very clear and powerful and i'm very happy with that decision.
Also bought a DB2D-Sub. Wow!

Before i had the wonderful N802 in cherry for 17 years. What an upgrade!
The 800D3 is clearer in the mids and upper, less distortion from the bass module upwards. I noticed that too on side by side a/b comparison.
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Old 03-26-2018, 05:58 PM
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Ended up with buying a pair of white 802D3 as my room is a bit too small for the big bass of the 800. And the extra 8 grands are also too serious for my bank account...

Before i had the wonderful N802 in cherry for 17 years. What an upgrade!
Yes a great upgrade, ENJOY.

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Old 03-27-2018, 09:36 AM
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I'm very happy with the decision and now i'm at the upgrade fever... Audioquest Niagara, better Power Cords and later maybe even better LS-Cables. Let's see. And work for the money...
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Old 05-29-2018, 03:32 AM
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For the technically unaware it bears repeating... "the size of the room matters little". Put another way... "ANY size speaker can work in ANY size room". So if you want a pair of 800D3 and can afford them and if the foot print is not a concern for you then GET THEM! For a another take on the matter view the first five minutes of this video... Small room, big hi-fi system... Could it work?

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How does carpet affect low bass performance?
Never heard of that.
If it did my listening room would have carpeted walls instead of bass traps.
Let me clarify. NO bass trap on the planet can correct for low bass much less sub bass response. NONE (that you could live with), which is really what we are talking about here when comparing the 802 to the 800. The coefficient of absorption of carpeting varies wildly between 1% and 50% (in some cases) with low frequencies (less that 250Hz). Factors that impact NRC include pile, density, fiber type and construction plus the pad backing the carpet can have a huge impact too as well as the surface beneath. Given that the floor is one of the largest surface areas in a room it is also one of the biggest contibutors of modal frequency disturbances.

Unfortunately, a typical room's floor is not designed to play well with low bass output. Then again Joey is not a typical consumer of HiFi either. So if an investment in a pair of 800D3 is going to be made then so should an investment on making the floor behave nicely (like removing/replacing the carpet, etc.). While I respect Joey's decision not to go down that path the conclusions for making that decision are in error. The problems he had are NOT do to the size of the room NOR are they do to the size of the 800D3. ALL ROOMS BIG OR SMALL HAVE ROOM MODES that must be delt with to achieve optimal performance.

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Old 05-30-2018, 04:49 AM
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"ANY size speaker can work in ANY size room"


My B&W 800D2 do work in a small room (16,4' x 13,6' x 8.39' / 223ft² = 5 x 4.15 x 2.56m / 20.75m²). With correct placement and electronic room correction.
I do not expect any problems when upgrading to the B&W 800D3.
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Old 05-30-2018, 10:50 PM
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My B&W 800D2 do work in a small room (16,4' x 13,6' x 8.39' / 223ft² = 5 x 4.15 x 2.56m / 20.75m²). With correct placement and electronic room correction.
I do not expect any problems when upgrading to the B&W 800D3.
I look forward to your results and findings.
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