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Old 11-23-2017, 02:38 PM
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Serge,

No, I think you have taken this the wrong way, for what I was agreeing too (Dan's comments) was more if anything a reflection of my (our) increasing age and the fact that some of us are at the point in life to where we just want to 'enjoy our music'.

Keep the technical stuff coming !!

Happy Thanksgiving to you as well !!
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Old 11-23-2017, 02:43 PM
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No, I think you have taken this the wrong way, for what I was agreeing too (Dan's comments) was more if anything a reflection of my (our) increasing age and the fact that some of us are at the point in life to where we just want to 'enjoy our music'.



Keep the technical stuff coming !!



Happy Thanksgiving to you as well !!


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Old 11-23-2017, 03:06 PM
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Serge,

Throughout the day, everyday, I am always reading posts on this forum. I do not post very often though. Your posts since you've come back Serge have been a pleasure to read. Especially since my current situation is similar to yours. Living overseas it doesn't make sense to build a second 2-channel system that would have to be shipped back to the states whenever we decide to leave. For the past year I've enjoyed a simple headphone system connected to my computer. Keep posting what you feel like. I'm sure there are others like myself that enjoy the info.

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Old 11-23-2017, 03:19 PM
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Over the years I've always counted on AA members to engage in any audio or off topic discussions of various interests with passion and enthusiasm.

It is or perhaps "was" the camaraderie here on AA, more so than most other forums out there that made participating fun, engaging and educational. The level of respect our members showed towards one another was exemplary. Where many other forum's members tended to engage in bitter audio related debates and arguments, we always found a common ground or respectfully agreed to disagree on certain topics and views.

I have been away from audio and for the most part away from AA for over 3 years as my life threw me some unexpected and unpleasant turns that I had to deal with first but coming back to AA and audio in general has been something I've been looking forward to once my life got back on track. My level of enthusiasm for audio gear and music is as strong as ever, even if my level of equipment is not what it used to be.

Now that I am back and can allow myself to be more active on the forum, I find AA has changed somewhat and it seems so have the attitudes and participation levels. I guess it is an inevitable event, passions die, hobbies change. Perhaps our members really are tired of discussing the various audio related topics as there is only so much new and old material we can discuss over the years of being active on the forum.

As Dan mentioned that he no longer cares as to "how" or "why" but simply wants to enjoy music. Fair enough, after all, it is the music that is the main point of being involved with audio.

I look forward to discovering new music through our multiple music threads and reading the posts from others who care to share their findings and impressions with various audio gear and the joy it brings as always but I will refrain from posting any further technical discussions since it does not seem to generate any enthusiasm and is perhaps not only a waste of my time but a source of irritation to others.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone. [emoji106]
I still enjoy reading different points of view.
I am thankful when members take the time to share their experience and opinions on this forum.
Please don't stop sharing or worse go the way of some of the others recently who have left all together.
I enjoy reading this forum because it is very informative.This will cease if it becomes too sterile. I.M.O. Thank you for you contributions.
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Old 11-23-2017, 04:33 PM
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I doubt that this forum will ever get sterile. There's too much technical knowledge, savvy experience, and associated thoughtful perspective embedded here for that, even as the focus for some of us shifts away from the glitter of LED-illuminated brightwork and the contemplation of how many bits can dance on the head of a pin to the reason many, if not most, of us got here in the first place--namely the enjoyment of that exquisite and ever-complex-in-its-own-right art we call "music".

As a septu who'll morph into an octo in just a couple of years, I'm one of those who's more into the music than in the how-it-gets-to-my-ears, though I'm not above knocking out an occasional equipment "review" (however loosely you want to define that) here. To me, implementation and its (admittedly subjective) audible result matters more than the deep-in-the-weeds theory (however artfully marketed) underlying the method or the format. That's not to knock any given technology or the hours of thought, experimentation, hair-pulling, design, and engineering that have gone into it. Audio's a world of seemingly infinite variables, in no small part because (1) individual listening environments, to say nothing of preferences, are no less variable, and (2) recording is itself an art subject to the decision-making that lies behind mike selection and placement and the mixing process determined by the production values of the artist(s), record producer, and engineer. Designing a product to satisfy in that milieu of variables, especially if one wants to get it right, can be nothing short of hairy.

I spend most of my online audio time here because this place is a civilized island in a sea of contentious egomaniacal mayhem. (Well, maybe that's a little over the top, but you get the idea.) But "civilized" doesn't mean "sterile" in my book. Far from it, when it comes to this place.

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Old 11-23-2017, 04:53 PM
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Over the years I've always counted on AA members to engage in any audio or off topic discussions of various interests with passion and enthusiasm.

It is or perhaps "was" the camaraderie here on AA, more so than most other forums out there that made participating fun, engaging and educational. The level of respect our members showed towards one another was exemplary. Where many other forum's members tended to engage in bitter audio related debates and arguments, we always found a common ground or respectfully agreed to disagree on certain topics and views.

I have been away from audio and for the most part away from AA for over 3 years as my life threw me some unexpected and unpleasant turns that I had to deal with first but coming back to AA and audio in general has been something I've been looking forward to once my life got back on track. My level of enthusiasm for audio gear and music is as strong as ever, even if my level of equipment is not what it used to be.

Now that I am back and can allow myself to be more active on the forum, I find AA has changed somewhat and it seems so have the attitudes and participation levels. I guess it is an inevitable event, passions die, hobbies change. Perhaps our members really are tired of discussing the various audio related topics as there is only so much new and old material we can discuss over the years of being active on the forum.

As Dan mentioned that he no longer cares as to "how" or "why" but simply wants to enjoy music. Fair enough, after all, it is the music that is the main point of being involved with audio.

I look forward to discovering new music through our multiple music threads and reading the posts from others who care to share their findings and impressions with various audio gear and the joy it brings as always but I will refrain from posting any further technical discussions since it does not seem to generate any enthusiasm and is perhaps not only a waste of my time but a source of irritation to others.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

Serge let me speak for myself and say I am glad your back and active on the forum and to please keep bringing up topics you find interesting. I love learning new things especially with regards to our audio hobby. I may not always appreciate certain nuances until they are brought up here, so don't be discouraged as some of us read what you post and do not necessarily participate in posting but read in silence. Dan you and Serge both have a writing skill and have a lot of knowledge to share so let Serge get technical ; let AA be a audio encyclopedia
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Old 11-23-2017, 07:32 PM
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Dan you and Serge both have a writing skill and have a lot of knowledge to share so let Serge get technical ; let AA be a audio encyclopedia
David.......It was not my intent to appear melodramatic in my post above. Just so it is clear, that post is not an attempt to discourage anyone from presenting and expounding on topics they find interesting, nor am I saying I have no interest in reading these discussions. My point is that I have discussed many of these topics so much through the years that I have little interest in repeating myself over and over. I have always been a detail oriented and technically minded individual with a good memory, and I remain so, but continuously engaging in repetitious responses holds no interest for me. Sometimes I find it more interesting to be quiet and let someone else row for awhile.

Serge is not someone who is lead, he is a leader himself on many subjects. Hence, I do not keep Serge from any endeavor he wishes to undertake. I respect his inquisitive mind and his ability to clearly express his thoughts. That's why I never fail to click on a post by Serge, even if I do not find myself interested enough to comment on the topic. I would never discourage Serge from digging deep into specifics as it relates to audio topics and other things he finds interesting.
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:14 PM
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Serge let me speak for myself and say I am glad your back and active on the forum and to please keep bringing up topics you find interesting. I love learning new things especially with regards to our audio hobby. I may not always appreciate certain nuances until they are brought up here, so don't be discouraged as some of us read what you post and do not necessarily participate in posting but read in silence. Dan you and Serge both have a writing skill and have a lot of knowledge to share so let Serge get technical ; let AA be a audio encyclopedia


+1. I love reading posts that make me think deeply especially ones that are technically oriented.

I also understand the intent of Dan’s post. There are topics that come back over and over, often started from new members that cause me to go ugh but I remind myself that a few years ago I did not know the difference between FLAC, DSD, ALAC etc. and asked many of ‘those’ types of questions. Frankly, I still don’t know or not enough to explain them to others.

But through the knowledge I have gained from the members here, I have learned enough to add tremendous enjoyment to my listening.
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Old 11-23-2017, 08:55 PM
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Most of what I would say has already been commented on in this thread.

As a relative newcomer, I’ll mention what was immediately obvious to me upon discovery of this site and that all of you are commendable contributors to: the unique AA attribute of member to member civility.

Deep knowledge and experience are also to be found here, and any topic is appropriate because of the civility from which it is originated and discussed. There’s no reason to stop!
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David.......It was not my intent to appear melodramatic in my post above. Just so it is clear, that post is not an attempt to discourage anyone from presenting and expounding on topics they find interesting, nor am I saying I have no interest in reading these discussions. My point is that I have discussed many of these topics so much through the years that I have little interest in repeating myself over and over. I have always been a detail oriented and technically minded individual with a good memory, and I remain so, but continuously engaging in repetitious responses holds no interest for me. Sometimes I find it more interesting to be quiet and let someone else row for awhile.

Serge is not someone who is lead, he is a leader himself on many subjects. Hence, I do not keep Serge from any endeavor he wishes to undertake. I respect his inquisitive mind and his ability to clearly express his thoughts. That's why I never fail to click on a post by Serge, even if I do not find myself interested enough to comment on the topic. I would never discourage Serge from digging deep into specifics as it relates to audio topics and other things he finds interesting.
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