A Tuner In Your System?

[MyPal]

Dan...Cool! I don't know much about the 3011A, only that Tandberg have a reputation for making fine tuners. What makes the Tandberg desirable to you?

Aaah....I just found the answer on the other thread. http://www.audioaficionado.org/tuner...tml#post500921

[Maks]

I've been doing a lot of tuner listening the last week and a half or so. Weather conditions have been great so the fringe jazz/blues station I listen to has actually come in steadily in HD and I found a few low power college stations I haven't heard before.

[W9TR]

Dan,
Wow, what a beautiful tuna! I like the calibrated signal strength meter and center tuning meter. Very nice, very Euro. Europe is a tough FM RF environment, so you know Tandberg builds them to perform in tough conditions. Awesome!

Steve a and Pete,
As beautiful as the 10B is, and believe me I love it, it is not a modern contender. This is true of a lot of our beloved tube tuners. The 10b doesn't have any post detection filters and so is very susceptible to HD radio self noise. So if you are buying for the cool factor, that's awesome. But the 10B and other tube tuners will have trouble with even the analog signals of a station broadcasting HD. Sad, but true. Pete, your MR80 will run rings around it.
Tom

[jdandy]

Originally Posted by W9TR

Dan,
Wow, what a beautiful tuna! I like the calibrated signal strength meter and center tuning meter. Very nice, very Euro. Europe is a tough FM RF environment, so you know Tandberg builds them to perform in tough conditions. Awesome!

Tom.......Thank you. The 3011A is turning out to be an impressive tuner. It has a servo controller AFC circuit that helps keep the tuner on the center of a stereo channel. The moment you touch the tuning knob the servo light goes out and AFC is turned off while you manually tune a station. Once you release the tuning knob the servo circuit turns on the AFC again and the servo light is once again illuminated. The sound quality is very good. I like the looks of the entire Tandberg stack with the tuner on top.

[MyPal]

Originally Posted by W9TR

Dan,
Wow, what a beautiful tuna! I like the calibrated signal strength meter and center tuning meter. Very nice, very Euro. Europe is a tough FM RF environment, so you know Tandberg builds them to perform in tough conditions. Awesome!

Steve a and Pete,
As beautiful as the 10B is, and believe me I love it, it is not a modern contender. This is true of a lot of our beloved tube tuners. The 10b doesn't have any post detection filters and so is very susceptible to HD radio self noise. So if you are buying for the cool factor, that's awesome. But the 10B and other tube tuners will have trouble with even the analog signals of a station broadcasting HD. Sad, but true. Pete, your MR80 will run rings around it.
Tom

Tom...Thanks. I've decided to steer clear of the 10B. It is high maintenance & much more difficult to realign. Given that I don't already have Marantz in my equipment line-up, the super premium prices commanded by Marantz die hard fans for vintage gear is over the top for me. For the price of a M- 10B, I could buy a new Accuphase T-1100!

Now, the MR71 has cool factor for me. A much lower redbook than the 10B, but I'm prepared to pay a premium because I already have the rack of mac.

Now if I were to (also) consider a modern contender excluding the MR88 because it is not available for the Australian market, what should it be?

MR87 is available & tweaked for Australia. Given that this is a DSP post processing tuner, the best way I surmise would be to hook it up is via TOSLINK. Quite a bit of this package must be dedicated to it's balanced analog outputs....So then how good is it's DAC because I'm guessing it does not have ADC DSP bypass for true analog output?

How does the MR78 stack up against the MR87?

[Maks]

Originally Posted by MyPal

Now if I were to (also) consider a modern contender excluding the MR88 because it is not available for the Australian market, what should it be?

MR87 is available & tweaked for Australia. Given that this is a DSP post processing tuner, the best way I surmise would be to hook it up is via TOSLINK. Quite a bit of this package must be dedicated to it's balanced analog outputs....So then how good is it's DAC because I'm guessing it does not have ADC DSP bypass for true analog output?

How does the MR78 stack up against the MR87?

I was told by Ron at McIntosh that the tuner chip outputs an analog signal and this is the "best" signal to use from an MR88. He said if you use the digital outputs you are going through an ADC, then obviously your outboard DAC. However, many people have reported "better" sound through the digital out. Personally I haven't experimented yet, I'm still using the balanced outs into my C2300.

[W9TR]

Steve,
The comments I made about HD self noise may not apply to Australia since HD radio has not been deployed there, AFAIK. So the MR-71 would make a fine choice if you want a tube tuner. As you move forward in time, the MR74, MR77, and MR78 are great analog tuners that all have their fans. All of them are great lookers. The MR80 is a sleeper, an analog tuner with a digital frequency readout that far outperforms my restored MR77 in every way. So I'm a fan of the 80. After that you get into the more modern module-based tuners like the MR85 and MR 87/88. If choosing beteweeen the two, the 87/88 would get my nod as the more modern design.
Tom

[Hifisand]

All,
I have had 1 tuner in my system over the years, the Yamaha CT 7000. Bought new when it first came out. Have no reason to change. No good stations for classical music anymore. It is my country music mute while I change records.
Dave

[jdandy]

Originally Posted by Hifisand

All,
I have had 1 tuner in my system over the years, the Yamaha CT 7000. Bought new when it first came out. Have no reason to change. No good stations for classical music anymore. It is my country music mute while I change records.

Dave.......The Yamaha CT-7000 is a beauty. It looks good in Silver or black.

[Vintage Pete]

Nice!

I think I'm partial to the black version.

Pete